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Monday , May 5 , 2008
Just a feeling: The coup is comming.
Posted by Seven , Reader : 674 , 12:03:42  
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Can't you feel it? I have a very strong feeling that the next coup is just around the corner. Sad to say it, but there is no other way to deal with corrupt politicians.

Surely, the country will suffer, another coup will for sure bring the country further down economically.

Another coup? So what! I am sad to say that Thailand is already a laughing stock to the rest of the world. Thailand is already considered a banana republic. How can the world take Thailand serious when its own popolation do not take themselves seriously.

The one of whom we do not speak, the one who has washed his hands of politics is again interfering in politics. Mind you, he is here to help, not the thai people, no sir, he is here to help himselves so he can once again plunder this country.

He does not wish to fight all the charges against him, he knows that he will surely lose. Then what can he do? Well, just change the constitution and he will be off the hook. Very simple.   

Simply put, there are some powerful people who will not allow him to change the constitution just to save his own skin.

A coup? Overthrow an elected government? Again? Ordinarily NO, but it this case a big YES since the politicians have somehow misunderstood their purpose: Politicians are here to serve the country, they are not here to serve themselves.

If Abhisit were a real leader he would go on CNN and explain the need for a coup. Would someone please fire this nice person and get a leader with teeth.

The situation is highly unstable. If things continue like this for much longer there will be no Thailand. The question is: Is the thai people going to allow just one single selfserving individual to cause division in Thailand? 

 

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comment 51
Hermano_Lobo date : 21/05/2008 time : 21.37
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Well I hope they give me a days notice. I have to press my uniform !
comment 50
Obeyno1kinobe date : 20/05/2008 time : 18.09
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Seven,
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
And if it turns out the usual mix of good and bad we can debate the possible solutions.

Amazing what difference a few years can make.

When I first got here the place was "stable" under the fist of Mr T. Sure there was corruption.

Now it's very unstable.
comment 49
Ian date : 15/05/2008 time : 19.50
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Seven, fetch him back, weld a bomb around his waist with a radio trigger from a sealed computer.
Give every voter a remote, if the computer registers 20 million pushes then it triggers the bomb
comment 48
Seven date : 15/05/2008 time : 16.24
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Sao Grabrong Hian

Obey is back, good!

"Seven, if Thaksin dissappeared, this would offer only mild temporary relief to Thailands political problem at best. The divisions, the vested interest, the corruption, the untouchable elite, the untouchable military, the patronage system etc remains."

I do not agree. Mt T has something no other thais do. He is special. He is dangerous. Mt T's government was not a one party government. It was a 1 person government.

Do you temember when Mr T went on a "holiday" when he stepped back for a couple of weeks? The TRT just could not function without him. Chaos. There are no other capable leaders in sight.

You can't have a leader that lies almost everytime he appears on national TV. How can you respect someone that just keeps on lying all the time. You can't have an immoral leader that is capable of any illegal activity.

Also Mr T did not respect the revered institution. In my own country I do not respect the monarchy. In my eyes they do not do a good job. But the situation in Thailand is different. The Thais are so lucky to have the best king in the world. He really is special. If you read his speaches you would find out that he does not have a spin-doctor do the work for him as other VIP's often have. He writes the speaches himself. His speaches are often very personal, you can feel that this is a person who really cares deeply about this great country.

I see these posible solutions:

1) A coup. Unpredictable what the outcome would be. Probably not something good.

2) Thaksin returns

3) Thaksin continues to pull the strings behind the scene.

4) This is probably the most realistic and the one I fear the most: Somebody decides to get rid of Mr T. Mr T has made so many enemies during the past years, that's why this one is so scary.

The corruption, the patronage system, that is so deeply embedded in the thai culture. The majority of the thais like it that way. Turn on the TV, what do you see? Week after week, thai soap operas about the slave-master and his misdeeds. The thais love it. They love watching the slaves being beaten up and treated bad. Corruption is everywhere, if you have power, use that power to enrich yourself. If you don't you would be considered a fool.

I don't hate Mr T. I'm scared of him. Also at the same time I admire him. The One Tambon One Product was a brilliant idea. The 35 Baht medical scheme, brilliant. I just loved it when he slept a Suvarnapuum airport in order to speed up the construction. He should be an asset to this country, unfortunately his greed has destroyed this unusual person. Mr T is special, he can do something no other person can. I would have loved to work for him, there is so much I could have learned.
comment 47
Obeyno1kinobe date : 13/05/2008 time : 13.22
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Seven and others, some interesting debate here. Really got me thinking.

Seven, if Thaksin dissappeared, this would offer only mild temporary relief to Thailands political problem at best. The divisions, the vested interest, the corruption, the untouchable elite, the untouchable military, the patronage system etc remains.

I agree that MrT might have wanted to become like Lee Kwan yu. I won't begin a debate on whether that is a good thing or a bad thing other than to say a good dictator might be a good short term injection, but not a permanant end result you want.

Mr T also alienated a lot of people without vested interest through his actions, not just the the old vested interest powers, elite, military etc.

Ian, I wish we could debate openly some of the underlying issues. I'm a repubican (pro an elected head of state, and anti monarchy in my home country).

People elected to run a country are always going to come into more criticism than those who just sit on the sidelines. And not please every one.

I'm not sure what the full solution is around Mr T taking his mandate and self interest to extremes. Especially when (poor) people don't care, perhaps because they think he was interested in helping them, and all the rich and powerful are exploiters.

To wrap up my current thinking and possible solutions:
- it would be great if there was an aspiring leader who wanted to make Thailand a better place without overly serving his/her own interests. I dpn't see any one.
- it would be great if the democratic institiutions were beefed up to reduce abuse by people acting as Mr T did.
- Seriously, the root cause it not Mr T. He made it worse perhaps. What needs to happen to avoid military coups? Either permanent military supported rulers (with enough support from other powerful groups and inistitutions). Or you simultaneously improve the democratic system and checks and balances, while weakening the non democratic elites.

Simply, I blame the acceptance of Coups in elite and general societ and the actual coup makers for the last coup. Not Thaksin. He gave it the fuse perhaps, but the bomb was sitting there ready to blow.........and still is.

You won't fix root cause by having coup after coup.

Part of the root cause is the unelected powers and military. Another part are the social and economics divisions and the latent belief that the poor are smart enough, or shouldn't allowed to vote, or just sell their vote. The poor majority has no money or power, but they have vote, unless the more powerful don't want them too, and that what the the coup did. Not only did it remove Thaksin, it effectively disenfranchised >50% of the population. And people here seem to accept that. I don't.

Don't just blame the devil, blame the God who made the devil.
comment 46
Seven date : 09/05/2008 time : 20.11
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Sao Grabrong Hian

Ginola: I'm not talking about solving the country's problems. I'm not talking about solving the corruption problem. I'm not talking about solving the rural-urban divide. You compare with previous leaders like Chuan, Chatichai, Chawalit. You compare with Samak.

You just can't do that. They are not in the same league as Thaksin. He is dangerous, the others were never. Thaksin never tolerated any disobediense. Anybody who went against him were immediately removed from their position. On TV they never reported any anti-thaksin stories. It was only stories about people giving roses to Thasksin.

The persons you compare with were only here to stay for a short period of time. Thaksin were never going to leave. Never! When the time came, he would hand over the position as President to his son, Singaporian style. We would have a regime like the iranian that would be impossible to get rid of. That is why Thaksin is so dangerous. Not because he is corrupt, but because he is obsessed with power. The 2007 constitution were made to prevent runaway power, it was written to prevent Thaksin from taking over the country again. God damn, it is Thaksin that is to blame, Samak is not a threat, the PPP or Thai Rak Thai are not. Blame the system but without Thasin there is no danger.
comment 45
Hermano_Lobo date : 09/05/2008 time : 14.35
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COUP IN MAY POSTPONED. DUE TO THE TERRIBLE EVENTS IN BURMA.
comment 44
Hermano_Lobo date : 08/05/2008 time : 17.55
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Why complain about corruption ? Why single out Thaksin? They are ALL at it !

"Thank you. I am not a destroyer of countries. I am a liberator of them! The point is, ladies and gentleman, that corruption, for lack of a better word, is good.Corruption is right, corruption works. corruption clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Corruption, in all of its forms; corruption for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And corruption, you mark my words, will not only save Thaksin Shinawatra, but that other malfunctioning corporation called Thailand. Thank you very much.
Corruption is good."

- With absolutely no apologies to Michael Douglas and the film,'Wall Street'.
comment 43
Ian date : 08/05/2008 time : 14.05
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The days of popular uprisings are passed, the army is just too powerful, even the police are scared of them. So change cannot come from the bottom, it has to come from the top. But the dinosaurs at the top oppose change, they have feathered their nests over many years and will not give them up easily.
The next few years will be a time of waiting for nature to take its toll and trying to survive in the meanwhile.
comment 42
FelixQui date : 08/05/2008 time : 13.44
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I agree with Ian's C. 37. Whilst that obstable exists, well informed opinion is simply impossible on too many matters of grave public interest.
comment 41
Ginola date : 08/05/2008 time : 10.46
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ginola

It's not about a person being good or bad, it's just a bad system that produces all these problems.

Look around you... the problems are embedded in Thai society... the rural-urban divide, the many corrupt police officers on the road, the corrupt army personnel (billions of baht are circulated each year just for the purpose of avoiding military conscription), the lack of understanding of most Thais about the Southern conflict and history, the sex trade industry, the lack of quality research in universities, the unequal quality of education across countries, the nasty crimes and the spread of drugs, the patron-client culture in govt and private sector... and so on...

All these problems are linked to the failure of the political system to produce a capable and honest government... and it has been happening for so long... long, long before Thaksin entered politics. The political and social division that has been evident in recent years are ultimately explained not by Thaksin but by underlying factors such as the rual-urban divide and patron-client social structure. Thaksin was just a catalyst or a trigger; the real problems are with the system.
comment 40
Ginola date : 08/05/2008 time : 10.34
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ginola

Obey, I very much indeed agree with you.

Seven, no need to post old articles. I pretty much read most articles/books that criticize toxin and co since long time ago. The difference between you and me is not on thaksin himself - i know he's corrupt, arrogant, fooling around here and there, and you name it, but the difference is that I don't agree with you that getting rid of thaksin from politics will help Thailand progress politically at all.

You keep blaming one person for all the problems, and you keep calling for a hero to solve the problems. Has it ever occurred to you, "why the hell is our system does not produce a good, capable, honest goverment? Why does the system produce leaders such as Thaksin, Samak, Chuan, Chatichai, Chawalit, each of whom has his own serious flaws?"

The bottomline is clear: it's the system, Seven, not a person. If I or you or some heavenly figure would become PM today, the country's problems will not be solved too. Corruption will not be solved too. The rural-urban divide will not be solved too.
comment 39
Seven date : 07/05/2008 time : 19.26
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Sao Grabrong Hian

The Nation 2. february 2006, frontpage:

When the political party you lead received a mandate to rule the country, the public support was derived from the expectation that you and your group would run the country in strict adherence to the Constutution, rely on the legitimacy and political stability to resolve the country's problems, create solidarity and implement policies in the public's interest. Instead, you have taken refuge in the mandate to totally destroy the principles of the charter.

You have used the power of the majorty and interference in the Senate to undermine the independance of constitutional organisations, leaving them unable to provide the checks and balances against the executive branch. This amounts to devastating the political reforms that many people gave their lives to build and to obstructing the freedom af the media.

Still, peacefull rallies guaranteed by the Constitution have been obstructed. A policy of sowing money everywhere has been used, resulting in communities becoming indebted and accustomed to consumerism. This has caused Thai society to confront an unprecedented disaster. At the same time, the South has become so divided and violent thay a solution is hard to obtain.

You have also allowed corruption to spread far and wide. You make it possible for people close to you and your family to benefit from state projects. State policies and negotiations with foreign countries have been abused to serve the personal interest in a way that lacks a sense of good leadership.

We, the undersigned, call on you to show ethical responsibility. You have lost the legitimacy to govern the country. For the sake of peace in the country, you should step down as prime minister right now before you drag this country to greater ruin.

---------------

Obey. Do not blame one person? What are you talking about?
comment 38
Seven date : 07/05/2008 time : 19.19
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Sao Grabrong Hian

Obeyno no no no no. Have you been here under Thaksins rule? There were never a government running the country. There were never any meetings in parliament. Nothing was ever discussed. There was only 1 person deciding everything: Thaksin. There was one person eager to fill his pockets with state money. Don't blame one person???? There is only one person to blame. Please try and read the papers from a couple of years ago. We never had democracy under Thaksin, he had totally dismantled democracy. We had dictatorship!
comment 37
Ian date : 07/05/2008 time : 13.28
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Read all the comments, read between the lines, it is clear everyone is pussy footing around the real conflict in Thailand. It is a clash of ideologies and their exponents. Sufficiency economy versus capitalism. Thailand needs to drop its censorship and bring the fight into the open. At the moment too many powerful figures are running with both the fox and the hounds.
comment 36
GGrass date : 07/05/2008 time : 13.01
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"Fix the system. Don't blame a person." -- well said, but not good enough.

"The system, fix. A person, don't blame." -- now THAT's more like a Jedi speaking.
comment 35
Obeyno1kinobe date : 07/05/2008 time : 13.00
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Or come up with a real alternative all the poor people will vote for.
comment 34
Obeyno1kinobe date : 07/05/2008 time : 12.57
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Thaksin is threat to the non elected old powers.

Someone who has the majority of votes in his hands. The votes no one else cares about.

Thery didn't vote him in because he brought votes.

Many of the poor love him.

It's starting to become a cult of personality which is dangerous to democracy, but less so than military coups.

If the constitution allows for ammendments and the elected government do it properly, tough.

People seem to pointing fingers in the wrong direction.

Blaming Thaksin for all the trouble. Who is trying to pull him down.

Is he not a citizen? Should he be put under house arrest?

You can improve the democratic process.

But you can't have it both ways ie only people you like ruling and be in a democracy.

Fix the system, don't blame a person.
comment 33
Obeyno1kinobe date : 07/05/2008 time : 12.40
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Maybe there wouldn't be any more coups, if the next constitution banned Thaksin from any political office, and the elected government was required to do everything the non elected powers (military aristocracy etc).

I think the root cause of the problem is not Thaksin, it is (a) that non elected people want to hold onto power (b) the checks and balances on democratically elected officials aren't working well enough yet. (c) Generals who stage Coups are not tried for treason and aren't under the control of an elected government.

If you look over Thai History, you will see who the real villians have been, exploiting people, holding onto power, corrupt and rich.

I thought Thaksin was an embarrasment and dictatorial (but he looks good compared to PMS) and was undermining opposition and checks and balances etc.

But having non elected people take control whenever it suits them is worse. It's the checks and balances and other things that need attention, not smashing the whole democratic system, and overhauling it until the steam builds up again.

I just don't get the mindset in support of the recent coup, unless you don't accept democracy when people vote in someone you don't like.

If that is how many Thai's feel, you will never fix the root cause.

You will never have stable democracy if:
(1) You don't accept elected representatives you don't like
(2) You don't put the military under the command of the elected government, and coup makers are severely punished and opposed by the people.

Democracy doesnt work if you won't accept that the majority of voters are poor and have different interests to the non elected powers.

You might as well restrict voters to people who support only your interests.
comment 32
Seven date : 07/05/2008 time : 12.30
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Sao Grabrong Hian

If there is another coup it will probably not be bloodless. People will get killed. People will cry. That is why Thaksin should not be allowed to amend the constitution. If Thaksin insists to make the changes the army will step in and take control. And yes, Thaksin is the one who decides in this country, that is why we talk about him.
comment 31
Seven date : 07/05/2008 time : 12.25
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Sao Grabrong Hian

Ginola, do you have any idea of why they are in such a hurry to amend the constitution? Do you have any idea of who will benefit from the changes? It is not the thai people, it is Thaksin.
Let the constitution be for now and focus on the real problems. Everything revolves around Thaksin.
comment 30
GGrass date : 07/05/2008 time : 12.23
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Yuri:

A DOUBLE!! Lucky me...
comment 29
Ian date : 07/05/2008 time : 11.20
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Thailand seems to be in an impasse. The only man with a demonstrable ability, Thaksin, is the one every educated person loves to hate.
Thailand has a unique, inwards looking culture, based largely on patronage, which does not help.
comment 28
wch date : 07/05/2008 time : 09.05

µØÅÒ¡Òû¯ÔÇÑµÔ ¨ÐÁÒ à¡Ô¹ !

'Tulagarnpathiwat' will come first.

The judiciary review or judiciary intervention,
as was in April 2006.
wch
comment 27
Hermano_Lobo date : 07/05/2008 time : 03.25
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This is the 'Thaksin Conspiracy'.
Stir up trouble, cause anarchy and a mess. Then return as a saviour. Then implement the so-called 'Finland Conspiracy. - And what have you got ?
President Thaksin !
comment 26
Dalmasian date : 07/05/2008 time : 01.55
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Ginola,

Very good ideas. Let's start with you first. As far as most educated and knowleageable people are concerned, Thailand would be amuch better place to live in without Toxin, Samak and the TRT/PPP crowd.

It is not called hatred, my friend. It is called FRUSTRATION.

-- Dalmasian
comment 25
Ginola date : 07/05/2008 time : 00.02
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ginola

"Well, just change the constitution and he will be off the hook."

People like you view that the goal of the constitution amendment is to help free Thaksin. That's not the correct way of thinking. We should look at the appropriateness of the articles in the constitution and judge if they are appropriate. If they are not, then we need to change them, even if it means Thaksin will benefit from that change. The consequences of constitution amendment on Thaksin should not be the center of the debate; the logic and appropriateness of the articles in the constitution themselves should be.

Another coup? It's simply naive and silly to ask for another coup or another hero/heroien to come and rescue Thailand out of all this mess. The piece reflects the shallowness of the writer and indeed further eliminates my hope of a better future of Thailand.

Want this mess to be solved? Just stop talking about mr.thaksin and talk about constructive issues. Talk about constitution amendment based on the logical reasons of the proposed amendments, not on consequences of the change on Thaksin and others. Stop complaining about Samak's rude words and behaviors, and instead talk about policies and solutions to problems. and so on...

The only way to get rid of this mess is to stop messing around, put away hatred and anger, and start talking logically and constructively.
comment 24
Hermano_Lobo date : 06/05/2008 time : 22.33
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Ian-
I wonder how long the 'Dinosuars' who are trying to run the country will last? As you say the 'thieves' are fighting amongst themselves. Which was to be expected, because that's what pirates do. It is causing a vacuum of leadership. Nature abhors a vacuum. Something is likely to happen?
comment 23
Hermano_Lobo date : 06/05/2008 time : 22.09
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GGRASS - Go Directly to Jail, Do Not Pass Go.......
comment 22
narcisuss date : 06/05/2008 time : 20.10
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I  come in peace :)

c19, yes a revolution of thought and accountability.
comment 21
Hermano_Lobo date : 06/05/2008 time : 17.47
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I have already told you what is going to happen:-

Khun Samak and a strange dream revisited
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez/2008/01/31/entry-1

&

Coup ! : Coming soon to a theatre in Bangkok
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez/2008/01/11/entry-1
comment 20
Hermano_Lobo date : 06/05/2008 time : 14.40
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It will all end in tears
comment 19
GGrass date : 06/05/2008 time : 14.17
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Revolution? Do we need to go that far?

Just jail someone and everything will be fine...

But you gotta jail the right person though...
comment 18
narcisuss date : 06/05/2008 time : 12.22
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I  come in peace :)

I don't think this country needs another coup to be quite honest.
It needs a revolution inspired by hope and a sense of entitlement to good leadership.
comment 17
Ian date : 06/05/2008 time : 10.51
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I think there is one basic obstacle to another coup, the powers the control Thailand, both visible and hidden, are currently at each others throats. Thus a group cannot combine sufficiently to manage a coup. Instead the country continues to sink into a state of anarchy.
I would be in a state of disbelief at what I see if I did not understand the Thai mentality. The Thai people actually enjoy anarchy!
comment 16
GGrass date : 06/05/2008 time : 09.53
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DKO: Well, don't worry my friend. You're not thick at all. You weren't supposed to know who r----r is... otherwise I'll be in a lot of trouble...
comment 15
wch date : 06/05/2008 time : 08.46

Coup,
is the physical breakthrough in political deadlock and its success depends on the sympathy of general public.

Revolution,
is to change whole social system.

Thai style is neither coup nor revolution, but
Intervention of armed forces, that gets free the blocked flow.
It must be called in the proper Thai language,

"Pathiwat."
-------------
It means " Action to betterment".

Sir W.Ch.
comment 14
DKO date : 06/05/2008 time : 07.54
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Sorry GGrass I must be really thick today or still half asleep. Who is:
The r-----------r.
comment 13
GGrass date : 06/05/2008 time : 01.01
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YOu know who I hate the most, from all the scumbags of Thai politics?

The r-----------r. He's just a MAJOR bunghole.

I hope this newly theorized coup gets him by the ball and squeeze them real hard.

But then again, I really doubt if he actually has any balls...
comment 12
MakubeX date : 06/05/2008 time : 00.31
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The last coup was what I'd call a "gentleman's" coup...more of a shot across the bow for the "pirates" to back off (turned out they abandoned ship like rats) rather than anything serious.

Unfortunately, pirates never seem to learn. If there's another coup, I don't expect the "pirates" to survive...but I fear that they may take others along with them when they sink.
comment 11
Dalmasian date : 05/05/2008 time : 23.27
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Seven-Up, the UnCola Drink of Choice for discerning gourmets.

If it's a coup that you want, then it's a coup you will get. Be careful, you might just get what you wished for. And this time around, it may not be a bloodless coup!

For it is better to fight fire with fire and poison with poison in order to cut off the evil ones's head and tail once and for all, and leave nothing to chance.

And so the Oracle has spoken, and so it shall come to pass.

-- Dalmasian
comment 10
Seven date : 05/05/2008 time : 20.13
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Sao Grabrong Hian

Thaksin knows the situation is unstable. Thaksin knows he is the cause of this unstability and division. He knows. And he does not give a shit. He really does not care about Thailand.
comment 9
Seven date : 05/05/2008 time : 20.05
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Sao Grabrong Hian

Banned for 5 years so why is Thaksin involved in politics? Because he is once again UNTOUCHABLE. Out of 65 million thais there MUST be somebody who can rescue this wonderful country. Please come out of hiding who ever you are.
comment 8
Ian date : 05/05/2008 time : 19.36
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DKO. one must emphasise that statement more frequently, "it's so sad when there are so many OTHER important issues we need people to be concentrating upon. "
comment 7
DKO date : 05/05/2008 time : 18.46
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I agree Ian about what is the point of another coup.

Regretfully I am also worried because how thing seem to be building. It looks like "I am out of politic forever" Thaksin is up to his eyeballs in involvement and IF there is another coup it will again be mostly about him.

I saw on Asia News today he is coming back to Thailand to sort out the bickering between the PPP and its government allies over which charter changes should occur. Not bad for a man out of politics.

Most, even Thaksin allies, think he is heavily involved in the politics of this country but until a change of law occurs he is supposed to be banned for 5 years. Who is running this country?

It appears Thaksin is naturally very interested and most believe he IS involved behind the scenes (whether true or not) in changing the charter to enable certain legal actions/investigations against him to disappear and for his monies to be unfrozen. Both Pro and Anti Thaksin supporters mostly seem to believe this is the case but of course they are totally divided whether they are happy about that or not.

For me, whether Thaksin is a good or bad man, guilty of charges against him or not, the best man for the job of PM or not, he is NOW the focal point for too many divis