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Thursday , April 24 , 2008

The unrest in the deep south

Posted by religion , Reader : 490 , 15:46:36

All nation know that the unrest in southern part of thailand has been going on because the officer used injustic method to crackdown on the separatist movement. As Muslim who have been living in the deep south are very anxious about the plight of innocent people who are not involed in this connection, but were arrested to be in prison. However, if the government wants to tackle the problem, he must be sincere and understanding the religious factor, cultural factor and Islamic a code of life. Those factors are very sigficant for all government to do the best of conduct in solving the problems in the deep south.

All nation know that the unrest in southern part of thailand has been going on because the officer used injustic method to crackdown on the separatist movement. As Muslim who have been living in the deep south are very anxious about the plight of innocent people who are not involed in this connection, but were arrested to be in prison. However, if the government wants to tackle the problem, he must be sincere and understanding the religious factor, cultural factor and Islamic a code of life. Those factors are very sigficant for all government to do the best of conduct in solving the problems in the deep south.

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comment 63
religion date : 10/05/2008 time : 03.30
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Hi! Lalida,

I supposed you are confused between Unseen and Creature. You wrote that:
Somehow through this comment of yours, I've got a feeling you're trying to convince me Buddha is Islam and your God

Those Who Associate Buddha with God

In its basic beliefs, philosophy and practices, this religion is idolatrous. Buddhists hold Buddha in a heightened sense of love, deep respect and fear, even accepting him as a god.
Although we have no documents from Buddha's time that suggest that he urged his followers to worship him; the Brahmans—who were already worshipping idols—quickly began to make statues of Siddhartha. And in time, those who nurtured an excessive love towards Buddha came to worship these idols and consider him a god.
However, all religions based on God's revelations adhere to a monotheistic faith that recognizes Him as single and unique. In the Qur'an (22: 34), God states, "Your God is One God, so submit to Him." To deny the supremacy of God and worship the idols of an ordinary person, as the Buddhists do, is described in the Qur'an as to "associate something with God." In hundreds of places in the Qur'an, God reminds us that this "association" is a very serious sin. For example:
God does not forgive anything being associated with Him, but He forgives whoever He wills for anything other than that. Anyone who associates something with God has committed a terrible crime. (Qur'an, 4: 48)

Regards.

comment 62
Lalida date : 09/05/2008 time : 15.50
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I suppose your name is Muhammad, so I'll call you by your name, it's more human otherwise I feel like I'm talking to a book...

Sorry Muhammad, I'm lost on this one, can you make it more clearer to me?

Buddha said "Our cycle is a happy one, three leaders have already lived . . . The Buddha supreme am I, but after me, Maitriya comes"

What's this all about, I never heard of it....

can you explain? and what or who is "Maitriya".

"This Buddha, called Metteya, shall be supreme chief of all Men."16 "

I don't think this Buddha is the same Buddha we're talking about....My Buddha never call himself the supreme or holy one....

Somehow through this comment of yours, I've got a feeling you're trying to convince me Buddha is Islam and your God.....

Don't even try Muhammad

comment 61
religion date : 09/05/2008 time : 06.29
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Hi! Lalida,

I used to talk with former monk dean, who is embraced Islam. He told me that as follow:

Buddha said: "Our cycle is a happy one, three leaders have already lived . . . The Buddha supreme am I, but after me, Maitriya comes. While still this happy cycle lasts, before its tale of years shall lapse. This Buddha, called Metteya, shall be supreme chief of all Men."16
Now, from Sri Lanka:
I am not the first Buddha [awakened one] who has come upon the Earth, nor will I be the last. In due time another Buddha will rise in the world, a Holy One, a supreme enlightened one, endowed with auspicious wisdom embracing the Universe, an incomparable leader of men. . . He will reveal to you the same eternal truths, which I have taught you. He will establish his Law [religion] . . . He will proclaim a righteous life wholly perfect and pure, such as I now proclaim. His disciples will number many thousands, while mine number many hundreds. He will be known as Maitreya.17

If you meet a cleric, try to ask him.
You must be logical person, not blindside.

Regards.

comment 60
Lalida date : 07/05/2008 time : 15.34
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Religion,

Love your comment on this one, at least now I don't have to debate with the Quran...

BUUUT,

1) True, what you said about Buddhism is partly true but there's no difference from other religion as well including Islam, right or not. Over time, things changes, words changes, human behavior changes., so how sure are you that the original Quran haven't changed anything?

2) ""Your God is God Alone." No arguement, if such God is your God alone, who can deny that? It's your personal right, if you want to believe "the person, the spirit or whatever" as your God, no one has the right to change your mind about it. I agree unless you preach him to others as the "One God".

3) "God made the universe we live in and, before He created it, no material thing existed. Nothing, animate or inanimate, had been brought into existence; there was nothing but a complete void".

No, no, no my friend, the science today and evidence has prove we come from the water at the very begining and then to land and one way or another turn into a monkey and then human. Is that not a fact? Adam and Eve just might be a Bectaria...The world today was created by human..

4) Your last para, I couldn't agree more and that's why in my mind, there's "Buddhism" and "True Buddhism" and it also proves that various religions has the side of true teaching of it and the one that's been twisted.

comment 59
religion date : 07/05/2008 time : 13.48
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Hi! Lalida,

Definitions of Buddhism have always varied, along with how Buddhists understand life's meaning. For some, Buddhism is a religion; others regard it as a sect or school of philosophy. But from its view of life and all its practices, it is ultimately clear that the doctrine of Buddhism is idolatrous and superstitious. Since Buddhism is an atheist religion that lacks any belief in God, it also rejects the existence of angels, the eternal afterlife, Hell, and the Day of Judgment. The basis of Islam is the knowledge that God exists, and the understanding that there is no god but Him. In the Qur'an, the divine source of Islam, God tells us (2: 163) that this is the greatest foundation of religion: "Your God is God Alone. There is no deity except Him, the All-Merciful, the Most Merciful."
Indeed, there is only one Absolute Being, and everything else is His creation. God made the universe we live in and, before He created it, no material thing existed. Nothing, animate or inanimate, had been brought into existence; there was nothing but a complete void. The moment the universe was created, only then did time, space and matter come into being, created by the Eternal God Who is not subject to any of them. In one verse (2: 117) of the Qur'an, God speaks of Himself as the flawless Creator of the universe

The erroneous beliefs of Buddhism vary greatly from country to country, because over the past 2500 years, this religion has mingled with the various local religions, customs, and established cultures of countries into which it has spread. Today, the varieties of Buddhism practiced in Japan, China, Tibet, Sri Lanka, Vietnam and America are all quite different from one another.

Regards

comment 58
religion date : 07/05/2008 time : 13.32
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Hi! Obey1,

It is noteworthy that Islam encourages tolerance and peaceful co-existence between Muslims and non-Muslims. If non-Muslims enter a mosque to deliver speeches that may lead to a better understanding, then it is welcomed and religiously recommended. Islam is the religion of constructive dialogue in the fullest sense. there is nothing wrong if Christians and Jews enter it. Therefore, if non-Muslims seek permission to enter the mosque in order to see how Muslims perform prayer, there is nothing wrong in that, as long as they have nothing with them that could defile the mosque, and their women are not dressed in a provocative fashion, or any other reason that bars them from entering the mosque. So they can enter and sit behind the Muslims to see how they pray.

Regards

comment 57
Obeyno1kinobe date : 06/05/2008 time : 13.05
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Getting back to your initial blog.

If non muslims want to trade all day on Friday while the Muslims have their sabbath day or whatever, they should not have to submit to your religious laws. This is Thailand, not Mecca.

The South of Thailand is similar to the Tibet issue for me. If they had a referendum for union or for independance from Thailand, that would be fair.

I think you will also have a hard time convincing people Islam is a religion of peace in theory and in practice, than any other religions. Again, the evidence in words and the actions undermine your position.

comment 56
Obeyno1kinobe date : 06/05/2008 time : 12.59
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I think the key issue here is you have not (and probably can not come up) with any reasonable evidence to show the people participating in this blog, that Islam is any more likely to be the absolute truth than any other religion.

Your argument is nearly the same as any other religion would make.

And like believers in other religions through faith in the unprovable, you are sticking to your set of myths and revelations.

comment 55
Obeyno1kinobe date : 06/05/2008 time : 12.53
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I also agree "that Allah is a figment of man's imagination"

The

comment 54
Obeyno1kinobe date : 06/05/2008 time : 12.53
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I also agree "that Allah is a figment of man's imagination"

comment 53
Obeyno1kinobe date : 06/05/2008 time : 12.49
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C44, one thing I tend to agree with you on is that I doubt Jesus ever intended to he would become seen as part of God.

Reliable independent evidence is lacking, but even in the gospels, while Jesus was alive, he doesn't make many claims to be god. There is one about "The only way to the Father is through me", but not much else. And his message was for Jews, his followers were Jews. Only after his death did non Jews join the Jesus cult.

I suspect, if he really did exist, he was a wandering radical, with some views that challenged the Jewish authorities, and he died for it.

comment 52
Obeyno1kinobe date : 06/05/2008 time : 12.41
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C42, man can live fine without allah or any other imaginary god. In fact if we take responsibility for how we act based on our own consideration and judgement, we'll generally be better off that blinding following religious dogma, especially a belief system like Islam that has been left behind in terms of developments of social justice and equality.

Humans are at their best when they free their minds of religious dogma and apply democratic and humanist principles that have struggled against the weight of world religions for 1,000's of years.

I think you will have a hard time convincing anyone that Islam is the final revelation, and has any more validity than any other religion.

I have a copy of the Koran, have read some of it. It sounds like other religious books I'm familiar with, and seems to borrow heavily from Judeo Christian materials.

Are you looking for the truth? Are you searching for something that fits better with the world as we understand it in the 21st Century. Are you looking for a belief system that doesn't look down on woman, or tell them what to eat, or tolerate slavery. Do you wonder why is it muslim people have children who become muslims who believe their religion is the right one, and so do Sikhs, so do Christians, so do Buddhists, so do Hindus, So did the Aztecs, so did the Aboringes, so did the Maoris, so did the Greeks and romans, so did the Africans. Can you take a step back and look at the pattern.

If you suspend your faith based assuptions for just 1 minute, you will surely see there is no more evidence for your invisible god, and the validity in the message of his prophet, than any other religion and it's founders.

comment 51
Lalida date : 01/05/2008 time : 00.49
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Religion,

Since I’m a Buddhist and you’re a Islamic believer, so let’s stick to Buddhist and your religion shall we and since I know little about Christianity and Catholic. My definition of logical religion or should I put it as beliefs which makes more sense.
As a Buddhist :
1)Buddha never claim himself as God but a teach – That’s logical
2)Buddha teacher to let go of oneself to be free from suffering – That’s logical
3)Buddha teaches us not to cling on anything to be free of implementing suffering for ourselves – That’s logical.
4)Buddha teaches us there consequence of what we do which in today world turns into something called Karma – The real teachings is logical
5)Karma interpreted at this very moment about last life, this Life and future life – Not logical
6)Karma in Hell – not logical but if it’s just an interpretation of consequence than is logical
Your religion base on what you’ve written
1)There’s only one True God – Not logical unless you can prove that to me and what’s the definition of “God”
2)Qu-ran as is the word of God – not logical, as Felix had questioned. Where’s the prove?
3)This God of yours holds the power to judge who is wrong or right and will be dealt with on judgment day – not logical
4)Your God said (according to your info) if you’re not with me, than you are totally lost in your life – not logical.
5)If your God is the same as the God of Christianity, than please prove to me that we are made by him. He must be a person who knows a lot about science and physics to make sure our cells goes to the right direction and make the right organ that we need in our body.
6)Your God is more superior than anyone else on earth. – not logical

Base on this few example of mine, I hope you can understand how I define “Logical religion”.

comment 50
religion date : 30/04/2008 time : 23.27
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Hi! Lalida,

What is definition of logical religion in your position?
I;ve tried reding your comment, you alway state "logical religion". If we were to bring this issue to an individual level, we would see that each person has their individual perception of good and evil, whether this perception is based upon religion, law, culture, or individual contemplation. One might believe that it is perfectly acceptable to commit adultery while another might think it to be wrong. One might believe that it is permissible for them to indulge in narcotics since it is their own body, and others might believe it to be a crime. None would be able to say that anything is right or wrong, and all people would be left to their own devices to believe and practice what they perceive as “correct.”

If we were to implement this belief in society, we would have a community based upon anarchy, where no laws could be legislated nor executed, for law is based upon the principle that certain things are to be good and others are evil. If one were to say that there are certain truths agreed to by all humans which can be used to legislate laws, this statement is true to a certain limit, as we stated that all humans do naturally have a trait to know right from wrong in a limited sense. But as seen, this trait many times becomes perverted through environmental. If you look at one religion who worship the dung and you say that is not logical, you will be their foe in the long run.
logical does matter.
regards.

comment 49
Lalida date : 30/04/2008 time : 18.53
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Religion,

Don't misunderstood me of not respecting your Quran or your religion and I do respect for all school of thoughts if they are logical. I am not madden by your Qu-ran, I am madden by you not answering my direct question, and I sure hope some of the readers who is reading my comment will come out and give me an answer to my point of question. Furthermore, will you not agree with me if a domestic dispute occurs, isn't it more effective to have the group itself to solve it instead of outsider who might only understand part of the situation? Meaning: such as the Pope who sends God msgs out when he see his religion are misinterpreted or wrongly use..or the head of the monks to renounce the ones uses Buddhism to cheat true believers.

comment 48
religion date : 30/04/2008 time : 17.39
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Hi! Lalida,
After reading your comment I'm convinced that you are pessimistic person on divine religion and I don't like saying that you are acquainted with your Tripidok or not. But I love telling you that I used to read the teaching of the buddhism .
Whenever comparison Islam to many schools I respect all the word, becuase I realised that the good words from God.
However, if I were you, I would respect for all school of thoughts. So, you should think twice before letering on the internet, becase they are many religious men who are reading your comment. By the way, I'm so sorry concerning the qur-an to madden you.

Regards

comment 47
redandwhitestripes date : 30/04/2008 time : 17.33
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Following on from c43 it is interesting to note that Ishaq's sirah HAS been edited. This is acknowledged by the editor (a Muslim scholar) as certain parts were deemed too shocking.
The sirahs are the biographies of Muhammed, they are just as relevant as The Koran but receive less attention since their venom is less disguised and therefore harder to explain away.

comment 46
Lalida date : 30/04/2008 time : 14.44
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Religion,

You are just going round and round with the Quran thing. Thanks and good bye...

comment 45
Ian date : 30/04/2008 time : 13.45
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Religion there are some basic flaws in your ideas. As you yourself said Mohammed chose the name Allah as that of a former Arabic moon God.
Jesus lived approximately 600 years earlier and was a Jew, hence he would have called God Yahweh. He could not possibly have told people to worship Allah as that name, if he had known it, was the name of a minor desert God.
The same goes for all the Biblical prophets, there is no way they could have called God Allah.
Similarly the claim by many devote Moslems that Arabic is the holy language of God is patent nonsense.
The Arabic script evolved from the Nabataean Aramaic script. It has been used since the 4th century AD, but the earliest document, an inscription in Arabic, Syriac and Greek, dates from 512 AD. The Aramaic language has fewer consonants than Arabic, so during the 7th century new Arabic letters were created by adding dots to existing letters in order to avoid ambiguities. Further diacritics indicating short vowels were introduced, but are only generally used to ensure the Qur'an was read aloud without mistakes.

comment 44
religion date : 30/04/2008 time : 13.21
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Hi! Ian,

In order to get the true knowledge I had to be careful in replying upon Islam. So, I went discussing with our common ideology or compiled articcles which are relevant.

Ian, There are so many sects, cults, religions, philosophies, and movements in the world, all of which claim to be the right way or the only true path. How can one determine which one is correct or if, in fact, all are correct? The method by which the answer can be found is to clear away the superficial differences in the teachings of the various religions, and identify the central object of worship to which they call, directly or indirectly. False religions all have in common one basic concept concerning Allah: they either claim that all human beings are gods or that specific individuals were Allah or that nature is Allah or that Allah is a figment of man's imagination. For example, Prophet Jesus invited his followers to worship Allah but those who claim to be his followers today call people to worship Jesus, claiming that he was Allah while Jesus himself would deny this as Allah says in the Qur'an:
"And behold Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary Did you say to men, Worship me and my mother as gods besides Allah; He [Jesus] will say-"Glory to You I could never say what I had no right (to say')" (Soorah Al-Maa'idah- 5:116)

however, I am generouse about talking of all region.

Regards

comment 43
Ian date : 30/04/2008 time : 10.55
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Religion, you never answer a question but continue to copy and paste articles. Why not simply post the link
http://thefinalmessage.net/nonmuslim.htm

I suspect you are not really understanding the comments and questions directed at and are simply posting copied articles that you think are appropriate.

You persistently ignore the core question, which is having accepted that there are aggressive intolerant passages in the Quran, and also some loving peaceful one, why cannot Moslems edit out these aggressive sutras?

comment 42
religion date : 30/04/2008 time : 08.49
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Hi! Obey1,

A man/woman cannot merely live on planet earth by his wits or instincts alone, he needs divine guidance that the Merciful Allah (God) provides by way of divine books and role models called Prophets or Messengers.

From the very day that man took his first step on mother earth, he was shown the WAY, the LIGHT, and the TRUTH. The reason being the first man on earth was also the first prophet of Allah. Man was not abandon by Allah on earth as some philosophers believe, but took a great leap forward on earth where he was given the free will to choose Allah's way or another.

Man/woman is at his best when he exercises his choice in submission to Allah's will or way. Choosing a path or way opposite to what God has shown by way of His prophets, man puts himself in peril, anguish and doom.

Have you lost your way in life and are searching for a way out of your misery, innate unhappiness, and a way back to a natural way of life? How do I find my way back to the One and Only True God? May be a question perplexing you.

Upper most in your mind would be the question where do I begin my search?

The right place to start looking is in the Glorious Qur'an, God's Last Testament to mankind. No other book supplied to so many and over so long a span of time, a comprehensive answer to the question, "How shall I behave in order to achieve the good life in this world and happiness in the life to come?"

The Qur'an which was revealed to Prophet Muhammad over a period of 23 years through the Angel Gabriel manifests God's grace to man,
the ultimate wisdom, and ultimate beauty of expression. In short, the true Word of God.

The Qura'n presents to man a complete and comprehensive way of life, and teaches that all life should be lived in obedience to God, and not partly to God and partly to Caesar. The Qura'nic thesis is that all life, being God-driven, is a unity and that problems of the flesh and of the mind, of sex and economics, of individual righteousness and social equity are intimately connected with man's hopes of salvation and life after death.

The Qur'an teaches that man is born sinless and pure. He is not held accountable for any wrongs the first man and woman on earth have committed. No man shall bear the burden of another. No one died or dies for your sins, particularly those that you are not guilty off or pays the price for you to get you off the hook. As magnanimous as vicarious atonement may sound, blood sacrifices are not natural, humane, religious or Godly. According to the Qur'an man is accountable for his own deeds or misdeeds and it is only the Almighty God in His infinite Mercy who can forgive man for transgressing against himself, others, his society, and God's guidance to him.

The Qur'an also teaches that every person is born a Muslim. All the prophets that Allah sent as teachers and role models to humanity were also Muslims. This is all the more necessary to understand, as the terms "Islam and Muslim" have unfortunately attained a restricted, historically circumscribed significance as applying exclusively to a particular community and people. It should however be borne in mind that when the contemporaries of the prophet Muhummed heard these terms, they understood them as denoting man's "self-surrender" to God without limiting these terms to any specific community or denomination. For example in 3:67 where Abraham is spoken of as having "surrendered himself to God", or in 3:52, where the disciples of Jesus say, "Bear thou witness that we have surrended ourselves unto God" (Bi-Anna Muslimun) In Arabic, this original meaning has remained unimpaired and no Arab scholar has ever become oblivious of the wide connotation of these terms.

The Qur'an enlightens us that the Almighty God sent His prophets with the message of Islam to humanity. Each and every prophet brought the same message, which was Islam, for its own time and place.
Islam means peace or submission to the will or way of God.

It is a misnomer to belief that Islam is a new religion. The Qur'an is God's final testament to humanity and the fulfilment of His grace, mercy, and bounty that He sent His final messenger Prophet Muhammad as a mercy unto all creatures. Prophet Muhammad was the last of the divine Prophets sent to mankind that began with Prophet Adam, the first man on earth.

Are you in search of the truth? Do you want to acquire a sense of peace? Are you looking for a winning lifestyle? Have you found the way that will bring you closer to God and which will lead you to a win/win situation both in this life and the eternal life to come?

The Qur'an is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIGHT. The proof of the Qur'an is in its own beauty and nature, and the circumstances in which it was promulgated. The world is challenged to produce a book like it and has not produced one in 1400 years. It is the only revealed book whose text stands pure and uncorrupted today. Read It! It will change your life for the better and forever in a way that will bring you the much needed happiness, peace, salvation, and above all the pleasure and bounty of God and the fulfilment of God's promise of a trouble free life without end.

*** Please note that Muslims are advised to use the words of salutation, PEACE BE UPON HIM, when the name of any prophet is mentioned.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THE QUR'AN AND ITS AVAILABLITY, PLEASE CONTACT THE IPCI

Regards

comment 41
Obeyno1kinobe date : 30/04/2008 time : 08.07
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Religion,

I thought the word Islam is from the root " aslama " (a verb), meaning to: "surrender; submit; obey.

If Islam is the fastest growing religion, I expect it is because of a higher birth rate, not conversion.

Lalida, I agree, Islam like most religions says some nice things, and some nasty things.

Whatever the Religion, it's followers are human animals. We share the same basic nature. Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, whatever the core religious belief in society, you will see a history of war, tribalism, crime and society where some people are greedy or rapists.

Burma is nominally Buddhist. It's not a great there.

Thailand is nominally Buddhist. It also has issues.

The US is predominantly Christian. Not much love if you stand in the way of their national interest.

Sri Lanka (was Ceylon) has Hindu Tamils and Buddhists. Naming the place in Buddhist as holy island after independance alienated the Hindu's from the start. There's been a religious war going on for ages.

UK and Ireland are nominally Christian. One Sect has been dominated by another for centuries in Ireland, reinforced by relious sectarian differences.

The Balkans: Catholics, Orthodox, and Muslims killing each other, with the Muslims on the receiving end.

Anyone reading the Jewish Torah (which is sort of the Christian old Testement) will see a history of bloodshed and war, slavery, brutallity. YHWH was often a god of war. This god supposidly killed everyone on earth with a flood, except one family.

My suggestion is don't go looking for a loving peaceful god in the Judio Christian Muslim traditions.

And for the Eastern Religions, the caste system in Hindu cultures. Buddhism is rather tame. But all religions invented by man are followed by humans. And humans are as we are.

And Religion, there is a clear pattern historical of military conquest, Royal decrees, aligning with the distribution of religions. Places conquered by the Muslims usually ended up having a muslim population. When a Roman Emperor decided to become a christian, the whole empire had to. When european kings decided to support catholisc or protestant creeds it usually ment persecution of the other sect.

Most of the good things about modern society are from the seperation of church and state, the enlightenment, in spite of religion, not because of it.

When the Muslim warriors come to convert my land to Sharia law, whether Sunni or Shia, as part of the Muslim superstate, I'll be fighting with the other non believers for freedom of religion, freedom from religion.

In the meantime, I support freedom from superstition, including the ones wrapped up in the veal of religion, telling people how to live and what to believe based on the personal revelations of a few charasmatic historical or mythical figures.

Religion, without resorting to scriptures which carry no weight to a rational person, how do you know your religion is the only correct one?

comment 40
Lalida date : 29/04/2008 time : 19.13
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Religion,

I truely believe there's a good side of the Islamic teachings just like every other religion. I have many Malay friends myself and almost all are against those who use the name of their God or Alla to perform their insane act. What I really don't understand is why people like you or my friends don't stand out to condamned them, Why The Islamic society does not do anything about it even though they know is wrong and totally against what you preach, Does that mean they agree with it or they consider as a self defence? Burning up schools, killing innocent teachers, construction workers of the school, does it make them a hero of your God. What are they fighting for I still don't understand and using a religion as an excuse are even more insane.

You "Religion", you preach about your beliefs in this Blog site of the good side of Islam, but tell me why you don't go and preach to those who kills in the name of your God, we're non believers of Isalm and by what's happening with facts of the act of these insane people, how will you expect us to see the good side of your religion if even you guys don't even do anything about it.

comment 39
religion date : 29/04/2008 time : 13.50
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Hi! Lalida,

Thank you for your question.

Islam does not believe in killing the infidels; rather it believes in conveying the “message of peace”. The word “Islam” itself is derived from the Arabic word: “salam”, which means peace. Thus, the word that stands for the religion of God, Islam, it means the peace that can be attained in this life and in the life to come through submitting to God's will. Islam believes that all the prophets taught this very same idea of submitting to one God.

If Islam was simply killing and terrorizing, how could it ever become a world religion, if one man in Mecca originally preached it? Do you think that force can spread a religion and make it survive the vicissitudes of fourteen centuries? Right at this moment, in spite of all the hostile propaganda unleashed against Islam, it is the fastest growing religion, a fact acknowledged by friends and foes alike. You need to refer to the original sources of Islam, in order to know what it really is. The stereotypes, presented by the media about Islam, which might really be misleading, simply affect so many people.

In fact, others than those whom were charged by the crime could have been behind the September 11th attacks. This is if the evidence is ever exhaustively examined. Note that Osama is still considered the "prime suspect". Still, the media is at the disposal of forces, least interested in the truth.

Best regards

comment 38
Lalida date : 29/04/2008 time : 11.56
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My dear religion,

By reading the comment of C37, I see that you're a extremist yourself. How can I in such case seek an answer of how one Islamic beleiver to tell me what his opinion is about the unrest in the south, you have actually avoided all my direct questions and preach me with quarn which I have know interest of. What I am interested in is how this problem should be solved in the islamic point of view as I hardly hear or see from the Islamic side condemning such act round the world. I thought with you in the Blog, I might just be able to see the other side of it, I guessed I won't be getting the answer after all.

comment 37
religion date : 28/04/2008 time : 11.23
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Hi! Lalida,
As for the heedless disbeliever, then his affair is not like this. He denies the presence and perfection of His Great Lord, that which is established by way of both intellectual and textual proofs, as well as scientific facts and findings. He does not pay any mind to these things.

As he cuts himself off from Allaah by not acknowledging Him and not worshipping Him, the disbeliever attaches his self to things found in nature and worships them. Thus, his heart becomes similar to the hearts of grazing animals.

The disbeliever has no concern other than gathering and enjoying material things. His heart is always in a state of unrest, afraid that he may lose the things he loves, afraid that affairs he does not like will reach him. He does not have the Eemaan that makes facing difficult things easy and lightens the weight of calamities.

The disbeliever has been deprived of the delight of Eemaan, the sweetness of drawing close to Allaah, and the fruits of Eemaan in this life and the Next.

The disbeliever does not hope for any reward from Allaah, nor does he fear any punishment. His only hope and fear is connected to the cravings of his lowly, materialistic, worldly desires.

From the characteristics of the believer is humbleness when submitting to the Truth, and humbleness when dealing with others as well. He is sincere to the servants of Allaah no matter what their status or position. This sincerity is found in his statements, actions, and intentions.

However, the disbeliever has pride and looks down upon the Truth. He looks down upon other people, too. He is amazed at himself, and does not make a practice of being sincere to anyone.

The believer has a clean heart that is free of deception, rancor, and jealousy. He dedicates himself to working in their best interests.

The disbeliever's heart is boiling with rancor and jealousy. He does not want any good or benefit for anyone else, unless there is some worldly goal in it for his own self. He does not mind oppressing others when he is able, while he is the weakest of them in bearing their harms that reach him.

The believer has a truthful tongue and interacts with people in a good manner. He is gentle, calm, peaceful, merciful, patient, and trustworthy. He is easy to be around and a good host to his guests.

The disbeliever is rash, harsh, and full of worries and dismay. He lies and is not trustworthy. He is quarrelsome with an aggressive temperament.

The believer combines seeking after the means that benefit him and placing his trust in Allaah, relying on Him, and seeking help from Him in all his affairs. He finds that Allaah the Most High helps him.

The disbeliever meets blessings with exuberance and pride, busying himself with the blessing rather than the One who gave it to him, and thus does not offer any thanks. He uses the blessings for his lowly goals. With all his exuberance, his blessings are quick to part from him.
Regards

comment 36
religion date : 28/04/2008 time : 11.23
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comment 35
Ian date : 28/04/2008 time : 07.34
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Lalida, you have just learnt a lesson I learnt years ago. Never debate Islam with a Moslem if you want logical answers

comment 34
Lalida date : 27/04/2008 time : 23.05
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Tell you what religion, I give up. If I wanted to know what's written in the Quran, I would have gone search for one to read about it.....

comment 33
religion date : 27/04/2008 time : 22.08
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Hi! all,
Islam does not in anyway allow for the killing of any innocent soul. I have gathered some of the Noble Verses that I am aware of that deal directly with war and peace to shed some light upon my readers.

Noble Verses that order the killing of the enemies:

Let us look at Noble Verses 9:28-29 "O ye believe! Truly the pagans are unclear; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear povery, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, For Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, from among the people of the book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Let us look at Noble Verse 9:5 "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

As we clearly see in the above Noble Verses, the laws of killing the unbelievers or the pagans were for particular and specific times, and not for all times and all places. Notice the quotes "...after this year..." and "...when the sacred months have passed...".

It is important to know that when Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him started preaching Islam, he had to deal with 360 Arab pagan tribes at first, and he and his followers had to go through a lot of battles that were imposed upon them by the pagans who were threatened by the new System and Wonderful Religion of Islam.

Noble Verses that deal with peace:

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

"On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The Noble Quran, 5:32)"

"Those who invoke not, with God, any other god, nor slay such life as God has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. (But) the Penalty on the Day Of Judgement will be doubled To him, and he will dwell Therein in ignominy. (The Noble Quran, 25:68-69)"

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

"If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 5:28)"

"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"
regards

comment 32
littlefish date : 26/04/2008 time : 20.56

Interesting issue indeed and see no end to it. When people blindly believe in somethings. They will do and sacrify anything at all to defend them. Killing? So what?

comment 31
littlefish date : 26/04/2008 time : 20.43

Interesting issue indeed and see no end to it. When people blindly believe in somethings. They will do and sacrify anything at all to defend them. Killing? So what?

comment 30
Lalida date : 26/04/2008 time : 20.16
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So, what's your opinion of Ian C28 Religion?

comment 29
Lalida date : 26/04/2008 time : 20.09
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No religion,

I did not ask because I see you as one of them but since you're talking about your religion and Quran, I just want to hear your opinion.

Second question, how do you see the problems in the South should be solved? By the Islamic believers themself who sees peace and harmony in their religion or by "self-defence" of the military or people?

comment 28
Ian date : 26/04/2008 time : 20.05
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Lalida, note that he did not answer your last question.
Now note also, if it be permitted that a Moslem can lie in order to further the cause of Islam, can you believe anything that he might say about his religion?

comment 27
religion date : 26/04/2008 time : 19.44
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add:
Goodness and evil are not equal. Repel evil with what is better. Then that person with whom there was hatred, may become your intimate friend!
And no one will be granted such goodness
except those who exercise patience and self-restraint, none but people of the greatest good fortune.
Qur'an 41:34-35
The truth
Best wish

comment 26
religion date : 26/04/2008 time : 19.39
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