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Sunday , March 28 , 2010
Abhisit Is Being Forced Into the Corner
Posted by Thanong , Reader : 2838 , 15:25:38  
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March 28, 2010

7:45 PM: It was quite unprecedented that a sitting PM sat down to talk with the leaders of the street demonstrations. Abhisit, whether he did so willingly or unwillingly, had sat down on the same table with the Red Shirts to hold talks on how to find a way out to resolve the political crisis.

During the Yellow Shirt demonstrations in 2006 and in 2008, the then prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat refused to listen to the rallies.

Abhisit's descendance from the Ivory Tower has eased the tension somewhat. Now the pressure is on the Reds, who do not have the luxury of time. The street demonstrations are not easy to maintain.

If the talks between the Govt and the Red Shirts drag on to Songkran Festival, what would happen?


The point is that the Govt is now holding talks with representatives of some 30,000-40,000 people on the street rally. How about the interest of the White Shirts, who do not want a new election now? How about the Yellow Shirts? How about the other 63 million Thais, who are not stupid either?

In the meantime, we can expect more M-79 grenade shootings as the talks proceed. Well, somebody has just shot five bullets into Bangkok Bank's Saphan Khao branch in the latest violent incident.

As Abhisit is being forced into the corner, how can he survive? The Reds will also have to prove their mettle on the streets.

My assessment is that Abhisit is holding an upperhand in the first round of talks. He has more grounds to stand on.

1. Dissolving Parliament will not answer to all the political conflict.

2. The political atmosphere remains very hostile.

3. How should the government answer the needs of the Thais in other political constituencies?

4. Why should we rush to dissolve Parliament when we can't agree on what we all really want?

The three Reds' positions are as follows:

1. We have been waiting for three years and exhasuting all the arguments.

2. Let's dissolve Parliament and hand back the power to the people.

3. If the government does not dissolveParliament, the atmosphere of animosity will continue.

4. The current government is not democratic.

The Reds must produce a quick solution because next months the National Anti-Corruption Commission might start to file further criminal suits against Thaksin Shinawatra.

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7.15 pm: The preliminary talks between Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and the representatives of the Red Shirts are about to end. No definite conclusion is reached, save for further talks.

They will meet again tomorrow at around five or six o'clock.

Jatuporn Phromphand hasgiven the PM two weeks to consider dissolving Parliament. The government still has another two years before ending its term.

Korbsak Sabhavasu, the secretary to the prime minister, will coordinate with Veera Musikaphong, one of the leaders of the Red Shirts, on details or the scope of the next round of negotiations.

The atmosphere at the King Prachadhipok Institute in the Chaeng Wattana area was quite amiable. Representing the Red Shirts were Veera, Jatuporn and Dr Weng Tojirakarn. Abhisit, Korbsak and Chamni Sakdiset were on the government side.

The Reds would like Abhisit to dissolve Parliament immediately and return power to the people. Whatever the outcome of the election, the Reds would accept it. They said after the 2006 coup, Thailand has not come under democratic rule. To resolve this, it is necessary for Abhisit to call for a new mandate from the Thai people.

Abhisit's positionis that dissolving Parliament is not the whole answer. What are going to be thenew rules of the Constitution? Have we consulted other constituencies in the Thai society? How about the rest of the 63 million Thais?

The Reds argued that the new government, which receives the mandate from the Thais from the election, will have the responsibility of amending the Constitution to make the country more democratic.

The PM said he never opposes to Parliament dissolution. But the point is whether doing so would end the conflict in the Thai society. The current atmosphere is also very unpleasant and tense.

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3:30 PM...........................

It never occurred to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva that he had to talk with theRed Shirts. By no means! They had been very rude. Yielding to street demonstrations would hurt his premiership.But he had to appeared on national TV this morning to issue a compromising stance.

Abhisit had to rush back from Hua Hin yesterday to oversee the crisis situation. The Red Shirts signalled that they would make their way to the 11th Infantry Regiment to demand talks withAbhisit. They would likeAbhisit to dissolve Parliament.

Forced into the corner.

Gen Prawit Wongsuwan, the defence minister, and Gen Anupong Paochinda warned Abhisit that he has to step forward to hold talks with the Red Shirts. Otherwise, the Military would abandon their support of the Abhisit government and the Coalition would be asked to form a new government with Pheu Thai Party as a core.

The prime minister musthave felt that he is being forced into the corner. But he now has no choice as the grenade launchers continue to shoot into the key premises in Bangkok. On the open streets, the Red Shirts are demanding Democracy. On the dark alleys, the grenade launchers have been shooting like crazy to destroy law and order and to weaken the government. the grenade launchers, backed by the politicians who are at the opposite side of the Democrats, have also created almost 30 bomb incidents.

The Democrats' bargaining power appears to be eroding. The soldiers, who come out of the barracks under the Internal Security Act, are getting tired and feeling very edgy. If theRed Shirts provoke the Military further, there could beaccidental shooting by one of the soldiers. The Military are afraid that if their soldiers were to shoot the Red Shirts first, they and the government would immediately lose legitimacy.

The prime minister has appointed Korbsak Sabhavasu to hold talks with the Four Reds -- Jatuporn Phromphand, Natthawut Saikua, Veera Musikaphong and Dr Weng Tojirakarn. They have tentatively agreed to use a neutral place of the King Prachadhipok Institute as the venue. There has been a report that the prime minister might have to negotiate with the Reds himself.

This morning the Red Shirts failed to catch up with Abhisit at the 11th Infantry Regiment, where the Four Reds hoped to open the talks.

The whole world is watching how Thailand will go through this crisis situation. The International Parliamentarian Union meeting is going on in downtown Bangkok.

"A bullet from soldier will mark complete victory for the Reds," said one observer. "The prime minister has been forced to hold talks with the Reds and to try to cool things down. This would be a real loss to the Democrats."

He added: "I think this is the beginning of the end. The government now has no choice. And ultimately, we will end up seeing a national government. Thakisin Shinawatra is looking forward to his amnesty."


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comment 36
macca date : 30/03/2010 time : 18.40

In C29 HyperInflation describes the truth about "democracy" . It's basically a con, a myth fed out to pacify and control, and has never really existed anywhere. Money brings power and rules the times, (with some help from religion) and always will. Sad to read lines from those who bark on about democracy. Freedom also comes from money, not democracy.
comment 35
darapong date : 30/03/2010 time : 12.06

THE PAD- YELLOW SHIRTS- ARE THE root cause of the current political crisis," -- period............

mr. thanong should know this because he is yellow- the ways his comments are- always- biased with the reds- in favor of the yellow-
comment 34
BangkokRay date : 29/03/2010 time : 18.19

yes, even Thanong's articles are goods with a value, which others, such as his employer, are prepared to exchange for other valuable goods.).



Felix,
Can't always attest to the value, but he reminded me right here that I never paid him a baht. I offered and he still didn't.
comment 33
Kaweeka date : 29/03/2010 time : 16.21

There is one certainty about Hyperinflation's views ... Thai history started when Thaksin took power and the present is all about undoing what HE and HIS GLOBALIST co-conspirators did to this land.

Before Thaksin, the country was in perfect harmony, the poor happy to be ultra poor, the uneducated, happy to be ignorant, the rich super happy to have all the wealth concentrated around Bangkok, the family banks (pretty much all of them) happy to hold all the savings of the top 1%, the land in the hands of just a few families, and all the state concecions in the hands of the democrats who were saints and honest. Corruption, an ingrane part of Thai / Asian culture, started with Thaksin too - in his view.

I just wonder how many times any of these self-righteous bigots have passed that 100 baht bill to the police whenever they were stopped for a traffic violation.
comment 32
FelixQui date : 29/03/2010 time : 15.18
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Hyperinflation
"However, the real economic growth that the planet can support is now over, and we are entering the catabolic collapse phase."
And your evidence for this is?
That the earth has no more minerals? That we've used up all the minerals under us? I see, so our cities are built on air now? That is news to me.

Certainly there are shortages of some things in some areas, which is one reason people trade - to move the things in demand from where they actually are to where there is a demand for them. What, for example, do you think we have run out of that is about to bring further economic growth to an end?

Your preferred definition of capitalism is silly: "Always demanding to take more than you give."

And false. The essence of capitalism is that people freely exchange goods that they perceive to be of equal value - they tend not to exchange otherwise. That is a subjective jadgement, and obviously teh value varies according to supply and demand, and other weird factors. The great thing about capitalism is that it's all done freely in a market place where people willingly labour to create value to have goods to exchange for other goods. Even were the unfounded belief that some irreplacebale raw material was about to run out true, the creation of value, and therefore continued economic growth, could continue. People whose main work is writing newspaper articles, for example, are not exhausting much in teh way of resources, and as our words move inexorably online, even less material resources are needed for the production of such valuable goods (yes, even Thanong's articles are goods with a value, which others, such as his employer, are prepared to exchange for other valuable goods.).
comment 31
FelixQui date : 29/03/2010 time : 15.08
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Hyperinflation,
Your understanding of capitalism is flawed.
It does not require growth, but it does predict growth, which is a natural result of the creation of value.

There is no reason now to think that further massive growth is not possible. Much growth in developed economies is in service, educational and other sectors. Why would you think there that some limit has already been reached in those sectors?

Why would you think any limit has been reached in any sector of the the economy?

ANd most important, why would you seek to deny to the vast majority of Thai citizens the right to aspire to and work towards the same level of affluence that you clearly enjoy? That sounds not just hypocritical, but morally indefensible. if you sought to force your negative views on others, it would certainly be morally obnoxious - as it was in China, Russia, and everywhere else where utopian fantasies led to teh usual evil.

The other obvious problem with Sufficiency economics is that it ignores, or is perhaps just profoundly wrong about, human nature. Human beings do actually aspire to improve tehmselves, to make a better life for themselves and their children. You would deny this.
comment 30
Hyperinflation date : 29/03/2010 time : 14.43

"YOu also mentioned teh sufficienty economy: that is nothing but the old ideas or thright, prudence and due diligence that date from the very beginning of capitalism, or it's communism. There is nothing new in it. Were it enforced by state policy, it would result in the same agrarian utopia that the Khmer Rouge brought to reality in Cambodia; please do not wish that on thailand"

This is so completely and totally incorrect I have no idea where to even begin refuting it. The current paradigm you call capitalism is ending. It requires infinite growth to remain. That can not happen on a finite planet. The best definition of capitalism I have ever seen is:

Always demanding to take more than you give.

This is so true. Ian even said people would not save money if they did not receive interest for it. That idea is so nonsensical that I could not even process it.

Of course, capitalism works to a small degree during a period of growth. However, the real economic growth that the planet can support is now over, and we are entering the catabolic collapse phase.

Continuing to try and support such an anachronistic economic policy is understandable, as you are comfortable with it, but ultimately futile. Your attempt to link the sufficiency economy with the brutal and murderous Khmer Rouge is disingenuous at best. And I am being extremely polite to even give you that much credit.

If you insist on trying to support modern day capitalism during the coming collapse period, you will needlessly condemn many more millions to death. If you have any compassion you, it is imperative you reeducate yourself and drop this naive notion. It can not work in the future. Everyone will have less, not more. We need an economic policy that rewards people for giving more than they get.

Luckily, there are people in Thailand who are actually trying to help the Thai people through this dismal period of history. Even if the people themselves do not understand.
comment 29
Hyperinflation date : 29/03/2010 time : 14.30

Kaweeka, c23, writes:

"Democracy is not the answer to all, but it is what you are SUPPOSED to have in this country, it is what most people would like to see materialize,"

You have stated this as if it were a fact Kaweeka. In reality, this is merely your opinion, and I believe it to be in error. This is clearly what you want to see, but Thaksin for example wants something entirely different. "Most" people have no idea of what they want. Study after study, and thousands of years of human history however, reveal that what they truly want is the freedom to pursue their dreams free of oppression, and to be slightly higher in social rank than their neighbours. Or barring that, since by definition half of everyone is below the median, the perceived ability that through hard work they can improve their rank. They honestly could not care less about the particulars of the form of government.

Democracy is simply one form of government, and not a very good one at that. The people crying about democracy really have no idea what this means. They are simply being manipulated by someone who saw the very real oppression which has been inflicted on them in the past, and took advantage of it for his own nefarious means. There is a term for a person like that. The Athenians called it "Demagogue". And democracy breaks down when one is present. If you truly want democracy, you must start by eliminating the demagogue. Otherwise, if you care about the people more than an idea, you should demand something that works and will actually help them.

You can choose one of democracy or Thaksin. You can not have them both, as they are antagonistic. You can, however, have neither.
comment 28
FelixQui date : 29/03/2010 time : 13.28
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Hyperinflation, re c.27m
You wrote that "[you] do have faith that those at the very top with our best interests at heart will not let the country down." On what, precisely, is this faith based? It seems, in view of the awful job done to date, to be a perfectly blind faith. Do you have any good reason whatsoever for such a sweet idea? If those same people were any good for Thailand, it should be in a much better state than it is today, socially, politically and economically. The current poor state of the nation must surely suggest gross incompetence of worse from those who have been guiding the nation these past few decades.

"I know there are people infinitely smarter than I trying to figure out how to clean up the mess Thaksin made and get this country back on track,"
No, it's the mess the PADster yellow made when they refused point blank to accept the will of the Thai people as repeatedly expressed through largely fair and well run elections. The anti-democratic PAD yellows are teh immmediate cause of the all the problems now facing Thailand.

The deeper cause is the massive divisions that are now apparent in Thai society. Thaksin did not create that, he merely took advantage of it. Had Thaksin never happened, that real problem would still exist.

After teh GT200 and all the other thefts, how could you possibly trust the military?
The Thai military regular tramples underfoot the Thai consitution, and you think they are teh saviours? How does that logic work?
What have the Thai military ever done for the good of the Thai citizens?

YOu also mentioned teh sufficienty economy: that is nothing but the old ideas or thright, prudence and due diligence that date from the very beginning of capitalism, or it's communism. There is nothing new in it. Were it enforced by state policy, it would result in the same agrarian utopia that the Khmer Rouge brought to reality in Cambodia; please do not wish that on thailand.
comment 27
Hyperinflation date : 29/03/2010 time : 13.15

I know I am new here, and I do not want to make waves in the blog. I felt a moral imperative to jump in the other day when I saw people unfairly chastising Khun Thanong for his very sagacious support of the sufficiency economy.

I would like to point out that, no matter what else happens, for the people at the very top who truly love all Thais and just want to see us through a very difficult period in history, that is still the most important goal. The question is does this latest development of talks put the quest for the sufficiency economy back in the lead? I could accept any outcome, even the amnesty and return of the tyrannical dictator (although I would require antiemetic drugs for life if this is the solution), as long as it means that the socioeconomic goals established by those who truly care about the country would be reinstated.

It is important to remember that at the very top, nothing will be acceptable if it does not lead the country away from the destructive habits that Thaksin espoused. It would be immoral to allow this. The end goal here is a united Thailand pursuing the sufficiency economy, and we do not have much time left to accomplish this. The collapse is already visible in several areas throughout the world, and it is growing. Thaksin ran into so much trouble because he upset that objective and replaced it with his own greed and ambition, and that is intolerable.

I do have faith that those at the very top with our best interests at heart will not let the country down. The question is not whether we can protect ourselves from the return of Thaksin, but can we protect all Thais from the poisonous return of Thaksin's overwhelmingly selfish rapacity. And how will the current talks go about achieving that goal? Do any of the red shirts even understand how important this is?

I know there are people infinitely smarter than I trying to figure out how to clean up the mess Thaksin made and get this country back on track, I just do not understand how these talks accomplish that. It seems to be a tactical error.

One last thing, people keep talking about the military as if they were the enemy. I do not believe this is helpful or prudent. While obviously not everyone in the military is honourable, I suggest to you that the only people who truly care about helping the entire nation exist either within or at the periphery of this very organisation. In the end, as much as this crowd seems intent on maligning them, they may be the only group that saves us from ourselves.
comment 26
Dalmasian date : 29/03/2010 time : 10.31
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/dalmasian

"If the Red Shirts provoke the military further, there could be accidental shooting by one of the soldiers. The military are afraid that if their soldiers were to shoot the Red Shirts first, they and the government would immediately lose legitimacy."

I do not agree with this statement. Not at all. If shots were fired in an effort to maintain peace and order and to enforce the rule of law, why should the government would immediately lose legitimacy? This is the very thing that is wrong with much of the arguments that I have read so many times here in these blogs. It is a silly argument. Period.

No wonder there is no law and order in this country. No wonder there is no rule of law in this country. When law enforcers are being asked to do their jobs with their hands tied behind their backs, how can they be expected to perform?

-- Dalmasian
comment 25
FelixQui date : 28/03/2010 time : 22.44
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/FelixQui

Do you think Pravit Rojanaphruk might have time to contribute here occasionally? I often find his perspective constructive and illuminating even where I do disagree - disagreement is not necessarily a bad thing.
comment 24
BangkokRay date : 28/03/2010 time : 21.44

Thanong, #25,
Seems to me the Democrats have already benefitted from Thaksin, TRT, and PPP. Otherwise they would still be the minority party.
You now acknowledge that Thaksin cannot return as PM, yet your continual rhetoric indicates that it's part of the plan. However, you refuse to acknowledge that the UDD is a force to be reckoned with. They will use Thaksin's influence on the portion of the reds that admire him, only to gain power.
The coalition will collapse once again if the reds prevail.
The only time AV seemed to have any interest in todays discussions was when he was talking. Otherwise he seemed totally disconnected, looking at the ceiling or away from the attendies. He looks tired and beaten.
comment 23
Kaweeka date : 28/03/2010 time : 21.32

c22 - I see, so what you are saying is that your mousetrap is better.

Like I have said a few times already, the problem with your posture is that while you push your dream, you continue to ignore the reality of the current situation.

You are perfectly content with the military junta dominating politics in Thailand while we wait for all people to be englithened enough to make your dream a reality. Your dream isn't going to happen this way, and you write a million more articles on the subject but nothing will change unless you start with more realistic goals.

Step by step, as they say. Democracy is not the answer to all, but it is what you are SUPPOSED to have in this country, it is what most people would like to see materialize, and until the communal sentiment changes towards your version of peaceful coexistance, you can continue to preach it, but you cannot deny the rest of your countrymen what they want. You are the media, you need to reflect the values of the people, not just your own.
comment 22
Thanong date : 28/03/2010 time : 21.17
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong

Kaweeka: You can pick on me, but you have to rise to the standard.
comment 21
BangkokRay date : 28/03/2010 time : 21.17

Thai means free. We don't need to borrow the word Democracy that you guys have been preaching.


But you are expected to pay somebody for a blog post.
Kaneeka,
I posed the question to Thanong; How long would it take to re-install Thaksin? Knowing what we know about Thai politics, it wouldn't take a professional Political Scientist to establish a reasonable, minimal timeline for this to happen.
I have established a reasonable timeline for such an action to happen, but if it were to take the same path as the 258 Mil contribution has taken, I will be fertilizer before T could return.
comment 20
Kaweeka date : 28/03/2010 time : 21.13

"Since you can't find any other valuable information elsewhere, which just reports the routine."

But it is fun to pick on you. The Bangkok Post is hopeless and boring.
comment 19
Kaweeka date : 28/03/2010 time : 21.09

O K A Y

I hear you loud and clear now.
comment 18
Thanong date : 28/03/2010 time : 21.08
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong

Since you can't find any other valuable information elsewhere, which just reports the routine.
comment 17
Thanong date : 28/03/2010 time : 21.07
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong

Which implies that you're desperate.
comment 16
Thanong date : 28/03/2010 time : 21.06
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong

But you keep coming back to me. 555
comment 15
Kaweeka date : 28/03/2010 time : 21.04

"Since you're one of the barbarians, you won't understand the truth."

Thailand's Buddhist treasures and rich culture have nothing whatsoever to do with the political impassse and what the reds, the military and the yellows are fighting for.

You are the one that has elected to politicize Budhism, which is really really against its principles.

The only success you are achieving is at been seen as someone too polarizing to be taken seriously. We don't forget that you are the managing director of this propaganda machine called The Nation.
comment 14
Kaweeka date : 28/03/2010 time : 20.49

ROFL Thanong, your additions to this weblog are so hypocritical that I can only laugh. NOW you are interested in the silent majority or white shirts?? Were you that concerned about them back when the Yellows were on the street in numbers about half of the reds? Where you that concerned back then about what the upcountry people were thinking and saying while the yellows, the military and YOU, the media, transpassed on an elected government? Did you denounce the violations of the junta for taking democracy down to the toilet with their self-serving coup?

Your double standards and hypocritical way of projecting your beliefs is precisely the reason why the golden city will never achieve your dreams. The "Barbarians" will continue to assault your gates until you open yourself to accept that they have the same rights as you.
comment 13
Thanong date : 28/03/2010 time : 20.46
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong

Since you're one of the barbarians, you won't understand the truth. I have written the Four Brahmaviharas and the four postures of the Buddha statues, which represent the gems of what is Thailand, but my articles do not ring your bell. so what is the point?
comment 12
BangkokRay date : 28/03/2010 time : 20.36

Thanong,
Speaking as a true Thai are we? How much do I get? Knowing full well that the process of returning Thaksin as PM would be lenghty even under the best of conditions.
I'd happily send you some baht to print a fair assessment of political conditions as they exist in Thailand today. However, it would require some investigative journalism, some gut level honesty, and if you printed the truth, you would likely be unemployed post-haste.
How much do you need?
comment 11
Thanong date : 28/03/2010 time : 20.23
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong

BR: You don't pay me a single baht. And you keep on pounding me at every turn. Now you want me to do a free service for you, which you will roundly reject. But maybe I'll surprise you.
comment 10
BangkokRay date : 28/03/2010 time : 20.13

Thakisin Shinawatra is looking forward to his amnesty."

Thanong,
Just suppose AV calls for new elections today. Please prognosticate how long it would take to hold an election, grant T amnesty, get him a position as MP and make him PM again. Your rhetoric makes it sound like it's going to happen quickly if the reds had their way. Please analyze the process and give us a date that T would become PM if AV called for new elections tomorrow.

PS I'm not expecting you to do this, but maybe you'll surprize me.
comment 9
Thanong date : 28/03/2010 time : 19.59
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong

BR: As you will.
comment 8
BangkokRay date : 28/03/2010 time : 19.47

Thanong,
Would the fee be more than you charge the Thai government?
Remember, their budget will be much more limited.
Realizing all the while, that the Thai government gets a bulk discount. I'm sure your marketing folks can fill you in on that info.
comment 7
Thanong date : 28/03/2010 time : 19.41
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong

Mobydick:
I am glad that you have told the hONG kONg newspapers to do their own reporting. Because they should not have followed mine because i might charge them for a fee.
comment 6
BangkokRay date : 28/03/2010 time : 18.17

Thanong,
Congratulations were nearly in order for you. You wrote a 9-10 paragraph blog and nearly closed it out without taking a cheap shot at Mr T. However, you kept your strak alive with the very last sentence.
Your buddy AV seems quite disinterested in the talks. You sure he got the message?
comment 5
Mobydick date : 28/03/2010 time : 17.57

C3,

I am also"an observer" but I have observed differently from Thanong.

And I warn Honk Kong newspapers (東方,太陽,蘋果,星島) don't report Thanong's speculations as news.

Reporters cannot make much money in BKK.

Thanong works more than a reporter therefore he can live in heaven.
comment 4
Alien date : 28/03/2010 time : 17.08
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/alien

Thaksin's amnesty? Can you say "yellow shirts"?
comment 3
Kaweeka date : 28/03/2010 time : 16.15

"Gen Prawit Wongsuwan, the defence minister, and Gen Anupong Paochinda warned Abhisit that he has to step forward to hold talks with the Red Shirts. Otherwise, the Military would abandon their support of the Abhisit government and the Coalition would be asked to form a new government with Pheu Thai Party as a core."

And the source for this is?

As you read through this weblog, I cannot help myself but to think about how much of this is based on actual knowledge (sourced or direct) versus how much is just rumor and personal judgement. Seems to me heavily tilted towards the later because I don't see any sources being mentioned, and the only quote from an external source is from "an observer". Who, the fruit seller in from of The Nation? The guy sitting next to K. Thanong or is the observer K. Thanong himself, 5555+

I also wonder why K. Thanong knows that the granade lunchers are "backed by the politicians who are at the opposite side of the Democrats" yet the police nor the military seem to be able to offer a clue about the actual people behind this. Perhaps K. Thanong should forward his knowledge on the matter to the proper authorities as this could be perceived as complicity by withholding knowledge about one or more crimes.

BTW, in the eyes of millions of Thais, this government never had legitimacy, so none is to be lost in the event that things get out of control and some tired soldier (of course it would be a lo-so soldier that would take the blame) shoots at the reds first. Aren't most of them supposed to be unarmed anyway? Kind of confused about this one.
comment 2
wch date : 28/03/2010 time : 16.05
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/wch

If certain degree of reconciliation could be achieved, the house dissolution could be a break.
AV government achieved much for last a year.

Listening to people than achieving some national progess is sometime more important.

giving a victory to the red people is the way to give happiness to them. This is the gist of ruling.
No one can blame AV and AV can come back with more powerful mandate to rule.
comment 1
FelixQui date : 28/03/2010 time : 15.51
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/FelixQui

Thanong wrote: "Otherwise, the Military would abandon their support of the Abhisit government and the Coalition would be asked to form a new government with Pheu Thai Party as a core."

Does this mean that the puppet masters are stepping out from the shadows?

As I've suggested on Anthony Fords post at http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anthonyford/2010/03/28/entry-1 , I'm not sure that either obvious option is enough any more. But I'm even less sure that the puppet masters will agree to a real solution, unless as Anthony suggests they do perhaps care about how history and their own descendants will judge them.

But talking is probably a good thing. It does often help. As does a bit of truth telling.
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