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Thursday , October 22 , 2009
20 reasons US has lost its soul, collapse inevitable
Posted by Thanong , Reader : 478 , 07:47:21  
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October 22, 2009

Since last year, I have been warning about the impending collapse of capitalism as we know it. The main reason of the collapse, as a growig number of people believe, is uncontrolled greed. Yet in Buddhist term, any civilisation is bound under three marks of existence -- impermanence, suffering and non-self.

Let's take a look at Three Marks of Existence from Wikipedia.

Impermanence is one of the Three Marks of Existence. The term expresses the Buddhist notion that all compounded or conditioned phenomena (things and experiences) are inconstant, unsteady, and impermanent. Everything we can experience through our senses is made up of parts, and its existence is dependent on external conditions. Everything is in constant flux, and so conditions and the thing itself are constantly changing. Things are constantly coming into being, and ceasing to be. Nothing lasts.

According to the impermanence doctrine, human life embodies this flux in the aging process, the cycle of rebirth (samsara), and in any experience of loss. The doctrine further asserts that because things are impermanent, attachment to them is futile and leads to suffering (dukkha).

Suffering or Dukkha (Pāli दुक्ख; Sanskrit दुःख duḥkha; according to grammatical tradition derived from dus-kha "uneasy", but according to Monier-Williams more likely a Prakritized form of dus-stha "unsteady, disquieted") is a central concept in Buddhism, the word roughly corresponding to a number of terms in English including suffering, pain, unsatisfactoriness, sorrow, affliction, anxiety, dissatisfaction, discomfort, anguish, stress, misery, and frustration.

Although dukkha is often translated as "suffering", its philosophical meaning is more analogous to "disquietude" as in the condition of being disturbed. As such, "suffering" is too narrow a translation with "negative emotional connotations" (Jeffrey Po),[50] which can give the impression that the Buddhist view is one of pessimism, but Buddhism is neither pessimistic nor optimistic, but realistic. Thus in English-language Buddhist literature dukkha is often left untranslated, so as to encompass its full range of meaning.[51][52][53]

Anatta (Pāli) or anātman (Sanskrit) refers to the notion of "not-self". In Indian philosophy, the concept of a self is called ātman (that is, "soul" or metaphysical self), which refers to an unchanging, permanent essence conceived by virtue of existence. This concept and the related concept of Brahman, the Vedantic monistic ideal, which was regarded as an ultimate ātman for all beings, were indispensable for Brahminical metaphysics, logic, and science; for all apparent things there had to be an underlying and persistent reality, akin to a Platonic form. Buddhists reject all these concepts of ātman, emphasizing not permanence, but changeability. Therefore all concepts of a substantial Self are incorrect and formed in the realm of ignorance.

In the Nikayas, anatta is not meant as a metaphysical assertion, but as an approach for gaining release from suffering. In fact, the Buddha rejected both of the metaphysical assertions "I have a Self" and "I have no Self" as ontological views that bind one to suffering.[54] By analyzing the constantly changing physical and mental constituents ("skandhas") of a person or object, the practitioner comes to the conclusion that neither the respective parts nor the person as a whole comprise a Self.

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Now read Paul B. Farrell's article on the lost soul of capitalism: 20 reasons US has lost is soul, collapse inevitable. (from Marketwatch October 20, 2009)


ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- Jack Bogle published "The Battle for the Soul of Capitalism" four years ago. The battle's over. The sequel should be titled: "Capitalism Died a Lost Soul." Worse, we've lost "America's Soul." And worldwide the consequences will be catastrophic.

That's why a man like Hong Kong's contrarian economist Marc Faber warns in his Doom, Boom & Gloom Report: "The future will be a total disaster, with a collapse of our capitalistic system as we know it today."

Insuring against economic calamityGold ETFs are so popular they now hold more of the shiny stuff than most central banks. What will it take to sustain the funds' big gains? Barron's Clare McKeen reports.
No, not just another meltdown, another bear market recession like the one recently triggered by Wall Street's "too-greedy-to-fail" banks. Faber is warning that the entire system of capitalism will collapse. Get it? The engine driving the great "American Economic Empire" for 233 years will collapse, a total disaster, a destiny we created.

OK, deny it. But I'll bet you have a nagging feeling maybe he's right, the end may be near. I have for a long time: I wrote a column back in 1997: "Battling for the Soul of Wall Street." My interest in "The Soul" -- what Jung called the "collective unconscious" -- dates back to my Ph.D. dissertation: "Modern Man in Search of His Soul," a title borrowed from Jung's 1933 book, "Modern Man in Search of a Soul." This battle has been on my mind since my days at Morgan Stanley 30 years ago, witnessing the decline.

Has capitalism lost its soul? Guys like Bogle and Faber sense it. Read more about the soul in physicist Gary Zukav's "The Seat of the Soul," Thomas Moore's "Care of the Soul" and sacred texts.

But for Wall Street and American capitalism, use your gut. You know something's very wrong: A year ago "too-greedy-to-fail" banks were insolvent, in a near-death experience. Now, magically they're back to business as usual, arrogant, pocketing outrageous bonuses while Main Street sacrifices, and unemployment and foreclosures continue rising as tight credit, inflation and skyrocketing Federal debt are killing taxpayers.

Yes, Wall Street has lost its moral compass. They created the mess, now, like vultures, they're capitalizing on the carcass. They have lost all sense of fiduciary duty, ethical responsibility and public obligation.

Here are the Top 20 reasons American capitalism has lost its soul:

1. Collapse is now inevitable
Capitalism has been the engine driving America and the global economies for over two centuries. Faber predicts its collapse will trigger global "wars, massive government-debt defaults, and the impoverishment of large segments of Western society." Faber knows that capitalism is not working, capitalism has peaked, and the collapse of capitalism is "inevitable."

When? He hesitates: "But what I don't know is whether this final collapse, which is inevitable, will occur tomorrow, or in five or 10 years, and whether it will occur with the Dow at 100,000 and gold at $50,000 per ounce or even confiscated, or with the Dow at 3,000 and gold at $1,000." But the end is inevitable, a historical imperative.

2. Nobody's planning for a 'Black Swan'
While the timing may be uncertain, the trigger is certain. Societies collapse because they fail to plan ahead, cannot act fast enough when a catastrophic crisis hits. Think "Black Swan" and read evolutionary biologist Jared Diamond's "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed."

A crisis hits. We act surprised. Shouldn't. But it's too late: "Civilizations share a sharp curve of decline. Indeed, a society's demise may begin only a decade or two after it reaches its peak population, wealth and power."

Warnings are everywhere. Why not prepare? Why sabotage our power, our future? Why set up an entire nation to fail? Diamond says: Unfortunately "one of the choices has depended on the courage to practice long-term thinking, and to make bold, courageous, anticipatory decisions at a time when problems have become perceptible but before they reach crisis proportions."

Sound familiar? "This type of decision-making is the opposite of the short-term reactive decision-making that too often characterizes our elected politicians," thus setting up the "inevitable" collapse. Remember, Greenspan, Bernanke, Bush, Paulson all missed the 2007-8 meltdown: It will happen again, in a bigger crisis.

3. Wall Street sacked Washington
Bogle warned of a growing three-part threat -- a "happy conspiracy" -- in "The Battle for the Soul of Capitalism:" "The business and ethical standards of corporate America, of investment America, and of mutual fund America have been gravely compromised."

But since his book, "Wall Street America" went over to the dark side, got mega-greedy and took control of "Washington America." Their spoils of war included bailouts, bankruptcies, stimulus, nationalizations and $23.7 trillion new debt off-loaded to the Treasury, Fed and American people.

Who's in power? Irrelevant. The "happy conspiracy" controls both parties, writes the laws to suit its needs, with absolute control of America's fiscal and monetary policies. Sorry Jack, but the "Battle for the Soul of Capitalism" really was lost.

4. When greed was legalized
Go see Michael Moore's documentary, "Capitalism: A Love Story." "Disaster Capitalism" author Naomi Klein recently interviewed Moore in The Nation magazine: "Capitalism is the legalization of this greed. Greed has been with human beings forever. We have a number of things in our species that you would call the dark side, and greed is one of them. If you don't put certain structures in place or restrictions on those parts of our being that come from that dark place, then it gets out of control."

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Greed's OK, within limits, like the 10 Commandments. Yes, the soul can thrive around greed, if there are structures and restrictions to keep it from going out of control. But Moore warns: "Capitalism does the opposite of that. It not only doesn't really put any structure or restrictions on it. It encourages it, it rewards" greed, creating bigger, more frequent bubble/bust cycles.

It happens because capitalism is now in "the hands of people whose only concern is their fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders or to their own pockets." Yes, greed was legalized in America, with Wall Street running Washington.

5. Triggering the end of our 'life cycle'
Like Diamond, Faber also sees the historical imperative: "Every successful society" grows "out of some kind of challenge." Today, the "life cycle" of capitalism is on the decline.

He asks himself: "How are you so sure about this final collapse?" The answer: "Of all the questions I have about the future, this is the easiest one to answer. Once a society becomes successful it becomes arrogant, righteous, overconfident, corrupt, and decadent ... overspends ... costly wars ... wealth inequity and social tensions increase; and society enters a secular decline." Success makes us our own worst enemy.

Quoting 18th century Scottish historian Alexander Fraser Tytler: "The average life span of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years" progressing from "bondage to spiritual faith ... to great courage ... to liberty ... to abundance ... to selfishness ... to complacency ... to apathy ... to dependence and ... back into bondage!"

Where is America in the cycle? "It is most unlikely that Western societies, and especially the U.S., will be an exception to this typical 'society cycle.' ... The U.S. is somewhere between the phase where it moves 'from complacency to apathy' and 'from apathy to dependence.'"

In short, America is a grumpy old man with hardening of the arteries. Our capitalism is near the tipping point, unprepared for a catastrophe, set up for collapse and rapid decline.

15 more clues capitalism lost its soul ... is a disaster waiting to happen
Much more evidence litters the battlefield:

Wall Street wealth now calls the shots in Congress, the White House

America's top 1% own more than 90% of America's wealth

The average worker's income has declined in three decades while CEO compensation exploded over ten times

The Fed is now the 'fourth branch of government' operating autonomously, secretly printing money at will

Since Goldman and Morgan became bank holding companies, all banks are back gambling with taxpayer bailout money plus retail customer deposits

Bill Gross warns of a "new normal" with slow growth, low earnings and stock prices

While the White House's chief economist retorts with hype of a recovery unimpeded by the "new normal"

Wall Street's high-frequency junkies make billions trading zombie stocks like AIG, FNMA, FMAC that have no fundamental value beyond a Treasury guarantee

401(k)s have lost 26.7% of their value in the past decade

Oil and energy costs will skyrocket

Foreign nations and sovereign funds have started dumping dollars, signaling the end of the dollar as the world's reserve currency

In two years federal debt exploded from $11.2 to $23.7 trillion

New financial reforms will do little to prevent the next meltdown

The "forever war" between Western and Islamic fundamentalists will widen

As will environmental threats and unfunded entitlements

"America Capitalism" is a "Lost Soul" ... we've lost our moral compass ... the coming collapse is the end of an "inevitable" historical cycle stalking all great empires to their graves. Downsize your lifestyle expectations, trust no one, not even media.

Faber is uncertain about timing, we are not. There is a high probability of a crisis and collapse by 2012. The "Great Depression 2" is dead ahead. Unfortunately, there's absolutely nothing you can do to hide from this unfolding reality or prevent the rush of the historical imperative.


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comment 19
Thanong date : 26/10/2009 time : 11.18
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Dear All:
If you read my early blogs, you'll find my coverage of the Thai financial crisis of 1997-98. I put a lot of details of how the bubbles developed before they went bust. Now a similar economic phenomenon is happening to US. I have no bias. Thai crisis and US crisis are very similar. But since US is large economy, it takes time to unravel. That's all.
comment 18
Alien date : 23/10/2009 time : 23.40
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I would worry that Yuri's comment 7 would come true. A war might not be started by the U. S. (this would be extremely hard to do) but they would be more than ready to jump into someone elses war. This would kickstart the economy, as long as they ran it on a WW2 basis rather than a Viet Nam basis.
comment 17
HA_HA date : 23/10/2009 time : 21.06

may i ask what ism thailand follows today?
before AV supported sufficiencyism. now with a lot of borrowing and speading i'm not sure what ism he stands for.


comment 16
FelixQui date : 23/10/2009 time : 16.42
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And contrary to Christy's c.1, I would have to say that capitalism is the only economic system that can be humane, not merely in practise, as shown by the horrors of socialist experiments and the monstrous evil of agrarian utopias, but also in principle.
Whatever its defects, and they are real, capitalism is the only economic system that can take seriously and respect human rights. Every other system will necessarily violate human rights, and that is part of the problem with the US. The departure from caitalism into paternalistic welfarism encouraged idiotic risk taking in the knowedge that an overbearing state would violate the wholesome principles of libertarianism and capitalist notions of accountability and responsibility to bail out the greedy. Capitalism does not breed greed any more than does any other economc system: human psychology breeds greed from the genes up. Capitalism can keep it in check, unlike paternalistic welfarism and other big daddyish interference by overblown states.
comment 15
FelixQui date : 23/10/2009 time : 16.34
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Lurker put it very well. Thanong seems to have no understanding of what capitalism even is.
On the other hand, Thanong does seem very well informed about Buddhism. The trouble with Buddhism, especially the Thai version, is that it is an outdated collection of ideas, many of which are just plain wrong: the metaphysics has come great insights for the time, but 2,500 years have passed since then, and much is now just plain wrong. The same for teh ethics: Buddhist ethics is not wholly bad, but it is not enough to serve as a reliable guide as to how best to live. Nor is Buddhist psychology as up to date and useful as modern psychology.

It probably does no great harm if Thanong keeps repeating his mantras of anti-capitalism, anti-freedom, anti-human rights and the like in favour of obsolete systems that are as morally dubious as they are metaphysically: no one, least of all Abhisit, attaches any credence to any such notions, other than the politically expedient polite show of respect for Buddhism.
comment 14
lurker date : 23/10/2009 time : 13.04
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In typical dramatic unprofessional flair, Thanong attributes the corrupt actions of big business and government to capitalism.

Capitalism is not evil. It is a very easy system to understand. It is also logical and moral, because it is based on voluntary associations. Socialism is based on force and involuntary associations.

What is capitalism?

1. Free people voluntarily buying and selling goods and services.

2. Free people buying and selling their labor.

2. People risking and investing their money to make a profit.

3. Governments enforce contracts.

That's capitalism in a nutshell.

Thanong is my senior and apparently an educated man, but a 10 year school boy understands that the fiscal and monetary actions of government is not capitalism. Thanong seems to have this obsession with what the elites are doing. Guess what? Not everybody is obsessed with New York City, Washington DC or Bangkok.

Thanong also doesn't seem to understand that capitalism doesn't equal Wall Street just like capitalism doesn't equal to the SET bourse.

People all over the world engage in voluntary commerce, interactions, contracts, with or without banks, with or without government interference, with or
without journalists pontificating in the freest and most despotic countries in the world.

Capitalism will always exist as long as people are alive willing to trade their goods and services in exchange for other goods and services.
comment 13
Ian date : 23/10/2009 time : 12.36
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I would agree with lonewolf. 8. Generations forget the lessons of their grandfather's generation. I purposely say grandfather rather than father as this seems to be the required time interval.
comment 12
HA_HA date : 23/10/2009 time : 11.15

c10, if half the world would starve it is not 'sufficiency economics'. it's 'insufficiency economics'.


comment 11
massein date : 23/10/2009 time : 09.42
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Thanong, you must remember, that most of the wizets we buy from china, thailand , asian in general, we invented, therefore we could possible make them again. Our problem is that we want cheaper wizets so we go to Asia to have them made.
comment 10
Alien date : 22/10/2009 time : 22.58
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If capitalism is dying, what would take its' place? Sufficiency economics? I think not. Half of the world would starve.
comment 9
HA_HA date : 22/10/2009 time : 22.17

it's not about capitalism. it's about the lacking of moral and greed that cause problem... me think.


comment 8
lonewolf date : 22/10/2009 time : 21.16

I know that in order to support an opinion, whether it be outrageous or mundane, we resort to quoting anyone who supports our opinions. When quoting sources who are either discredited by the majority of the educated (e.g., Lyndon LaRouche) or relatively unknown pseudo-economists (e.g., Paul B. Farrell—a trained psychologist) the message tends to become devalued. That being said, there still comes a point when we need to synthesize the information and provide our own analysis. Quoting at length the statements of someone of limited expertise does little to influence the reader to support a position…as a counter-point it would not be difficult to find numerous competing statements from an equal number of commentators of limited expertise. Where is the intellectual value in such an exchange?

Thanong, your most recent tale of doom and gloom is a bit disjointed albeit still following a common theme. I would have appreciated and benefited from a more thoughtful, personal analysis between the connection of “the three marks of existence” and the failure of unregulated capitalism. I emphasize the term unregulated because capitalism by itself is simply an economic process not inherently good or evil. Any time there is an exchange of goods or services for something of greater common value capitalism has surfaced. The danger is allowing greed to be the controlling influence in the process…when this occurs all participants suffer. And I am sure that somewhere in “the three marks of existence” there is an understanding that greed is a basic part of the human element and must constantly be held in check by personal moral values or when that fails by laws and regulation.

The depression of the 30’s, a period of incomparable economic collapse, was also caused by unmitigated greed by corporations and the elite. And everyone suffered. This suffering led to strong fiscal and banking regulations in addition to personal value reassessments. (During this time many religious revivals began all around the US as people were searching for their moral basis.) Even though this was a horrible experience for all involved some good came out of the event and led the US to many decades of strong economic growth. Sadly, too many of the people who suffered through the depression have passed on and their lessons have been silenced and greed has again temporarily prevailed. The people in the US (and perhaps in other parts of the world) are going through a very public debate as to who is to blame and what to do next. We all have our opinions, positions and passions but as of yet no common consensus. People who have enjoyed the benefits of unregulated greed do not want to change the status quo and they still have the ability to positively influence countless numbers of people against the common good. That is where we are today.
comment 7
Hermano_Lobo date : 22/10/2009 time : 19.03
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Yawn...........

The American power players will never allow Thanong's predictions to happen. The would start a large war somewhere to mobilise the economy and the masses.

For a fascist he keeps banging on against capitalism. Sort of an Oxymoron?
comment 6
anthonyford date : 22/10/2009 time : 16.56
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The Truth is Freedom

My predictions are : The USA will be ok and the changes this crisis will bring will not be reactive and radical as you are suggesting. The basics of the US are strong. They are unmatched in Food production, energy control and technology development.

Take for example the 5 main grains in the world. Wheat, Corn, Soya Bean, Rice and Canola. The USA is in population terms are less than 5% of the world’s population and yet they are top producer in 3 of the 5 main grains of the world. They are also the top beef and pork producers.

Energy wise they have huge amounts of untapped energy sources such as oil and coal. They also have companies that control energy distribution all around the globe.

Technologically in all major fields, be it IT, medical or agriculture, they are the leading the field. More than 90% of the worlds computer work is done using US software. More than 40% of the world’s medications are produced by US companies.


All these accomplishments by such a small population are the result of the current economic and political system in the US.

The system is not perfect, but defiantly not a failure.

The whole world including the author of this blog has benefitted from this country and its success. Be it through medical treatment, IT, travel or food.

The reason for the US’s problems today is because the market forces were not free to act on the US economy. The protection from market forces was cause by numerous countries around the word using the US$ as a base currency and a number of commodities around the world also using it as a base currency. A serious bout of currency depreciation should free up the US economy from this protection and then free market forces will make the US what it should be. The US may not shine as bright as it used to, but that is because the rest of the world has learnt its system for success and implemented their strategies.
comment 5
wch date : 22/10/2009 time : 15.23
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Knowledge and experiences form an identity - ego of a human being. It is Soul. Soul exists contendingly with body (Id) and with Not-Self or annihilation of existence.

Any sufferings are a, combined conditions of the Mind that is formed by pulling or rejecting forces of the 3 elimentary existences - body, soul and non-self (I zero, Io).

Any sufferings can be corrected by meditation (changing mind) or medicine (psychotheraphy).

Buddhistic theology has been too much exaggerated that only results in confusion.

US economy condition can be explained by this three elements of elementary being.
Good aspect of liberalistic capitalism is its self-correction course or at least much easy to correct it than communistic economy.

Anyhow, in this global economy turmoil, super-liberalism sprouts from the original birth place of it,
the Britain.
comment 4
Ian date : 22/10/2009 time : 11.15
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Thanong, as a blogger I find you boring, you are a student padding his essay to increase the word count. This blog should have been written as several blogs each with its central theme.
comment 3
happyjack date : 22/10/2009 time : 08.52

Socialism is rendered unworkable by the Lazy.In Theory perfect.
comment 2
ChristySweet date : 22/10/2009 time : 08.16
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Capitalism dead? Good ,I say Socialism in a far more humane system..

And if Americans have lost their souls , a them which you don't quite expand on...? At least we had a soul to lose..
comment 1
massein date : 22/10/2009 time : 07.57
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Thanong, If any thing, you are consistent, and never falter with your anti captalist research. The small % of schum who have seized control of a great nation, are similar to the same that want to rape and plunder this great nation. Eventually the majority, will expell this rotten fruit, There will be renewal of both your country and mine. The free entriprise democratic sysytem will prevail. Unfortunely neither you are I will live to see it.
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