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Wednesday , August 22 , 2007
More Bashing
Posted by Tawan , Reader : 1709 , 02:05:03  

The internet, what a great tool to level the playing field. One just has to take a look at the Thai forums to see how quickly Thais are changing and adapting their communication skills to match a global society.

On the internet in dealing with global issues Thais are throwing out Thai rules of communication and adopting western rules of communication. Just like everyone else Thais can hide behind the computer. No more smiling no more silence no more politeness rules of Thai society. Why because it does not work it is a global audience. Read the comments smiles are interpreted as deception to gain access to ATM cards no one smiles in the west unless they are up to something or watching comedy central. Polite is interpreted as buy me a house. Silence is interpreted as just plain stupid as seen when ET ask his 5ws to the class and no student responds. ET interprets this as the students must be stupid or the education system must be failing certainly not as advanced as western education system where are all the guns?

Enter the Western Dragon where loud mouth, direct, aggressive behavior moves you up in politics, society and business. Anything less is interpreted as weakness and worse inept. In short, the Alpha dog characteristics are taught very early and learned if one is going to be successful. If one can not perform the wolf pack eats you alive. Results are as an Alpha dog being bigger, meaner and better than any other dog on the block and deserves success as such, less aggressive dogs deserve their lot in life because they chose to be weak non aggressive. A good communicator can shoot off the 5Ws faster than a machine gun with one linear goal in mind of I am right and you are wrong no grays in this world. Although, a good communicator can also grasp incremental thinking also, such as the Japanese

Example I wish you luck but quickly adding I hope you fail. Never use circular communications this is also interpreted in the west as deception stick to linear and incremental.

Where East meets West, hopefully, Thai society can keep the two means of communications separate Japan did. I would hate to have to walk the streets of Thai society with a stun gun in hand.

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comment 13
From-the-Dark-Side date : 23/08/2007 time : 21.28

Krisnawani, I believe that one thing you have missed while in America is the fact that if you need or call for help you will get it 95% of the time. Not so in Thailand, you call and you are ignored.
comment 12
From-the-Dark-Side date : 23/08/2007 time : 21.23

Tawan, the 5 'W's" begins with 'who' and in todays' world the word 'How' has been added to the end of the group
comment 11
Ian date : 23/08/2007 time : 19.54

Pondering, that is a good point, Asians (I prefer to say Asians rather than just Thais as it is an Asian problem), do worry too much about what others think about them and age differences etc. If you look at discussions between myself and say Greg or Narcisuss, they show no repect for my age, nor would I expect this from them. We debate ideas, not the person creating them, if we think an idea is stupid or wrong we say so, that does not mean we think the person is stupid, just the idea:-)
Asians are often more impressed by a person's status than by the merit of his ideas. You will often notice this in the back slapping and mutual praises that the Thai "intellectuals" indulge in in these blogs, when they disagree they do so very politely
comment 10
Pondering date : 23/08/2007 time : 09.00

And I might be wrong about this...........

Thais, many Thais, struggle with communications (a.k.a. suck at it.) According to the society, there are way too many things at stakes...worrying about what others may think of them, who they are talking to, are they older, younger, will they think of me as a bad person and so forth. I'm sure many Thais are opinionated, but do not easily allow themselve to be that way. I feel bad for those who feel that way.
comment 9
Tawan date : 23/08/2007 time : 07.56

Thank you Khun Ian. I wish I had read that before I published my current blog today. It took me 12 hours to write that.

It is pretty bad when even Thai people do not understand it
comment 8
Ian date : 23/08/2007 time : 00.49

Tawan, can I make a simple suggestion:-) Write several short blogs rather than one long one, limit each blog to just one thought. You can always return to that topic by adding comments to the blog later.
comment 7
Tawan date : 23/08/2007 time : 00.36

The main problem is what Khun Ian says is correct about my posts "most of the time I have no idea what you are talking about".

It is clear that Khun Ian and some other bloggers here are intellectuals with a highly developed communication skills. I can read, with a dictionary, Khun Ian's blogs and understand and appreciate his crystal clear thoughts.

However, I tend to mix linear, incremental and circular thoughts together and thus confuse the reader.

I am still working on this problem.
comment 6
catch22 date : 22/08/2007 time : 15.49

All I want to add is regarding the comment about Israel. It is indeed a quiet, peaceful place.
comment 5
krisnawani date : 22/08/2007 time : 15.07

I am not an American, but studies in Massachusetts for 7 Years. I am not sure that what kind of experience you had with Americans. You are only partially correct. In the Northeast, New York and Boston, people are quite rude. But, if you are in California, American is as nice as Thais. They might to go as far as smiling to a stranger but, they are very helpful. Plus, the fact that an American have to walk down the street with a stun gun is very much an over statement by the movies. You are correct that in few (lets emphasize few) neighborhoods might be dangerous overall you can feel as safe in Bangkok compared to New York. I bet you think that Israel is like a war zone, from the TV News. I have been to Israel several times for work and there is nothing that resembles the problem mentioned on TV. It is even safer than Bangkok. Perception for something can be created by TV but, you should also question the source and the objective of the source.
comment 4
Tawan date : 22/08/2007 time : 06.18

I do not know Khun Ian but for adults in America I hear What more and for children it is Why.

As I classify this blog as the Thai Stickman Style surely an American will comment on it.
comment 3
Ian date : 22/08/2007 time : 04.51

Aha, We call them the 5 wise men:-) More more poetic :-) Also we have a different order, who, where, when, what and why.
Is there some psychological import to this, is "who and where" most important to an Englishman, whereas an American is more interested in "what and when"?
comment 2
Tawan date : 22/08/2007 time : 03.50

You always make me laugh Khun Ian. The 5W's are what, when, where, why, who. The Americans will get I think. These kinds of blogs easier to rant than the financial ones.
comment 1
Ian date : 22/08/2007 time : 02.52

perhaps all of that means something to an American, but most of the time I have no idea what you are talking about. what are the 5 Ws bye the way?

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