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Posted by Piset , Reader : 1438 , 19:57:26  
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From the Nation today: Thai PM arrives Malaysia on an official visit Monday Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva arrived Kuala Lumpur on Monday for an one-day official visit to.... I have heard something like, "arrive here, arrive there, but not 'arrive Malaysia', or 'arrive Kuala Lumpur'. . . . Please correct me, if I were wrong.  Otherwise, please advice the nation's editorial staff what should be corrected.

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comment 50 HA_HA date : 16/06/2009 time : 21.32

#48, 49 thanks k.piset & mr. happyjack. hope to learn more from both of you.

comment 49 Piset date : 16/06/2009 time : 20.49 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/mahwatthai Piset

Haha: For about 9 years from 1991 till 1999, I served a number of Thai companies as their operating chief in China. The phrase 山高皇帝远 was repeated to me n times by both the locals and the Thai colleagues. It is true as happyjack said, if ethical standard is the same, then the distance shouldn't matter. However, in rality, the distance does impact upon the amount and accuracy of communication. As you said, those A-s-s kissers around the HQ certainly have different sets of ethical standards. Nevertheless, the meaning of this phrase means both the reduced influence of the CEO and the opportunities for those at the remote aras to be "automonous" to cetain degree, officially or not.

comment 48 happyjack date : 16/06/2009 time : 15.19

Ha Ha, i refer only to Commerce and Free Trade,not to Thai nonsense or values.All Good Companies have the Same Ethics

comment 47 HA_HA date : 16/06/2009 time : 11.56

#45,46 thanks for your explanation mr. happyjack. but that's just your opinion..(that boots licking is over. etc.) This I'm not agree with you especially in Thai bureaucratic system. However, I just want to know the meaning of the old Chinese saying not about the present situation.

comment 46 happyjack date : 16/06/2009 time : 06.41

Should you want to see where im comeing from,and who was my guide and mentor.Google Sir John Harvey Jones.

comment 45 happyjack date : 16/06/2009 time : 06.34

I mean Boot Licking is Over,The Bosses Son thing as Automatic Boss is Over,its now a time of Earned Respect,through Old Chins would say otherwise.When i re structure a Company here,the Family are the first to go,with few exceptions.I'm not sarcastic,just ruthless.Thats what i like about Espresso,he rattles cages.Don't forget,its the owner who brings me in.i don't invite myself,the Cancer in all Chinese Companies,is old culture its sad to say.That's Fact,Not Sarcasm.Lies in Balance Sheets are clearly spotted,thats why i dont Blog , only enjoy.Client and Ethics,plus i get featured in articles Financial Megs,this is my Tea Break Reading,and Light Relief,no offence meant.

comment 44 HA_HA date : 15/06/2009 time : 09.57

#43 happyjack, I don’t understand what you mean. Why did you have to be sarcastic? I am just interested in old Chinese saying mr. expresso mentioned in #26. Then mr. piset and mr. peacefulness explained the meaning which were slightly different in my opinion. The first - you’re likely to get no help from the emperor. The second – you can abused your power because the emperor would not know. The third - I added it myself because it’s also the case that little civil servants in remote area are likely to be forgotten. I had read that that people who fell out of favour would be sent from Peking to remote place like Yunan to be forgotten. So I just doubted what is the real meaning that’s all. Now from mr. expresso #41, 42. I understand it covers anything good or bad. It just means the Emperor is faraway you can do anything you want. Am I right?

comment 43 happyjack date : 15/06/2009 time : 07.26

C40,what absolute Socialist Crap,how old are you Boy 12.Those Days died years ago,the Companies went bust,you have to know the name of the Toilet Attendant to survive these days, and about time to.Mind you,i like to buy the companies for nothing once the second generation have milked them.

comment 42 expresso date : 14/06/2009 time : 22.41 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/expresso

Incidentally, I also obliged my friend cum boss also. After all, he's a Shanhanese Chinese American who had a powerful heritage in China before. What I did was to pay my drivers out of my own pockets the way that I felt the custom was. I could afford it, btw!

comment 41 expresso date : 14/06/2009 time : 22.36 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/expresso

c37 by peacefulness is in tune with what I meant. It was about the way I paid my personal driver that the HK HQ had an opinion. I did my own way. That's when my friend cum boss said to me: 山高皇帝遠!

comment 40 HA_HA date : 14/06/2009 time : 15.38

So what does 山高皇帝遠 really mean? - c33, big bosses at the capital or at the company's headquarters can hardly be responsive or helpful on local issues., or - c37, meaning, a remote area where law enforcement is hardly reached, so one can do what he prefers.... or the big boss is too far to notice what good you have done. In Thailand people believe in the last one. The guys who hang around licking his boss boots always got promoted while those who really work hard in remote are forgotten.

comment 39 happyjack date : 12/06/2009 time : 07.11

N.D. a Compass has 4 Points unless you say Other Wise.All my Wife's Family Generations Ago Dug the Smelly Things.Thats why they are Rich and Own Thailand.

comment 38 happyjack date : 12/06/2009 time : 07.04

Ian,not an obsession, just a yardstick for rudeness in reference to this Blog,same as wch is to clarity.Just because you have Eaten Well,don't gloat on the Famished.

comment 37 peacefulness date : 11/06/2009 time : 12.07 nationmultimedia.com

just fyi 山高皇帝远 shān gāo huáng dì yuǎn or 天高皇帝远 tien gāo huáng dì yuǎn (sky high,king faraway) meaning, a remote area where law enforcement is hardly reached, so one can do what he prefers.... most chinese they prefer to use the first one "shan gao huang di yuan" 山高皇帝远

comment 36 Piset date : 10/06/2009 time : 23.16 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/mahwatthai Piset

C34: Talking about the Muslems, members of a royal families escaped internal power fights in Iraq and landed in Thailand duing the reign of King Rama V. The first thing they did was buying up a lot of land. Can you guess, the family name of this former Iraqi royal family.

comment 35 Ian date : 10/06/2009 time : 18.49 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

HJ, Expresso, I find it strange that you two are still obsessed with Lalida, the only time I normally think of her is when you mention her. I guess I have more things to think about

comment 34 notdisappointed date : 10/06/2009 time : 17.35

c32, Hap. Actually it was the imported Muslims who dug all those canals east of Bangkok that's why you will see large communities of TRhai Muslims East of Bangkok. The Chinese due to their business acumen were given land in and around Yawarad area.

comment 33 Piset date : 10/06/2009 time : 12.00 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/mahwatthai Piset

C26 山高皇帝遠 is a frequently used expression meaning those big bosses at the capital or at the company's headquarters can hardly be responsive or helpful on local issues. Essentially, it means those with the highest authority are frequently too far away and/or too busy to look after everything. This is precisely the prime cause of failure when people from small countries or small economy attempted to rely on the support of those big big bosses in their investments or problems in a large country such as China. During the early years of opening up, many Thai-Chinese who followed the prime minister's entourage into Beijing and had exchange tosses and name cards with some of the top men in Chinese government, thought that they can have the "all convenient gree pass" for everything that they wanted to do in China, just as the way they do businesses in small countries, such as, Thailand, Burma or Laos. When problems arose and/or conflicts developed between them and those local interests, such as, the case of Sino-Thai's case in Shenzhen, they found that those in the central government simply are too busy with other things and too far remove from being able to help with their local problems. Most of the area in Cina except for those few plains along the Yangze River Delta or Mongolia features rugged mountainous terrains and desserts. Thus, the word "mountain is high" really mean the accessibility of those top authoirities are difficult. the word "the emperor is far away" really means the emperors' physical location and attention is too far removed from paying attention to those local issues.

comment 32 happyjack date : 10/06/2009 time : 07.08

Espresso attacks with the ferocity of a Dead Sheep, i still find him funny, he goes through Mood Swings, a common trait with Alcoholics.Thats a bit harsh,i should say with Chinese Blood,he sounds just like my Late Father in Law,he rambled on,but a good Family Man nonetheless.Why does he say Dig,is this a reference to his ancestors roots in Thailand, producing miles of Klongs. We both have a common dislike, that rude mouthy tart,Ians regards for her still remains a Mystery.Have a good day,my Espresso is stone COLD.

comment 31 Ian date : 10/06/2009 time : 05.49 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

Anyone care to explain what expresso is talking about, I am lost. for a while recently Expresso was starting to make sense, now he is back to attacking me for no apparent reason. There are some truly strange people on this blogsite

comment 30 expresso date : 10/06/2009 time : 03.21 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/expresso

c28, Ian, I do not subscribe to the art of diversion. I have no need to answer yours before you answer mine. Dig?

comment 29 expresso date : 10/06/2009 time : 03.17 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/expresso

In ian's c22, he just pointed out a common mistake. No big deal to me. My friend, noonin, asked me to do my homework and I dutifully did. For me, nothing is more important than deciphering where they are coming from. Ian raised a topic, "Blog or Bloggers". Of course, many subscribed, especially it was written during the spat of me and Lalida. Arseholes supportedhim and the were the ones who left on mass , as Master Ian had termed, bu to me, they are fools....Too drunk to define fools for now!

comment 28 Ian date : 10/06/2009 time : 01.25 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

ND, 27. Yes that is correct. Expresso 26. Do you know the expression, "should the mountain come to Mohammed?"

comment 27 notdisappointed date : 10/06/2009 time : 00.29

c22, are you saying that using 'dismissed' and 'not' together is a 'double negative' thereby making it an affirmative sentence?

comment 26 expresso date : 09/06/2009 time : 22.43 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/expresso

There are axioms used by people from different countries. Some axioms contain special meanings only the native-speakers can fully comprehend. I remember my ex-boss cum friend in HK, a Chinese American, once wrote to me 山高皇帝遠. Apparently, he couldn't find better words in English to say what he had wanted to say (we communicated in English all the time). To the English speakers, 山高皇帝遠, when translated literally, means: Tall mountain, and the king is far away. Chinese and those who study Chinese know what it means. But how others interpret it could be interesting.

comment 25 Piset date : 09/06/2009 time : 19.36 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/mahwatthai Piset

noonin: I always accept correction of my errors with appreciation and respect. Don't worry.

comment 24 noonin date : 09/06/2009 time : 18.14 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

My comment on Yoon's blog/Red News. Comment 109 Al Very true, would we address each other with vulgarities if sitting around a table. Yesterday I did get annoyed when things were written that had no place in a civilized discussion. Then I too became impolite on Piset's blog as the crudeness continued. I do try to abide by the rules of good manners. Swearing and sexual innuendo are not acceptable to me. Al I am sure you know what liberal means. To some being open minded is seen as a weakness

comment 23 Ian date : 09/06/2009 time : 15.55 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

long time no see, is a catch phrase, these do not have to obey the normal rules. Missing words are automatically inserted by the hearer. Example: He's Up the creek . Any listener would insert the words without a paddle.

comment 22 Ian date : 09/06/2009 time : 15.48 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

Here is an interesting one from today: "Anupong dismissed reports that the army would not retaliate but would continue using peaceful measures to try to win back the heart and mind of local people in the efforts to restore peace." By using the words "dismissed" and "not", it means the army WILL retaliate and use aggressive methods. Perhaps a Freudian slip?

comment 21 Piset date : 09/06/2009 time : 13.58 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/mahwatthai Piset

Hey: What do you people think about "long time no see." noonin: Thanks for the corrections.

comment 20 bzzzzzBee date : 09/06/2009 time : 11.19 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/beehive

,,, and there is the differences in English English and American English ... mostly in pronounciations and spellings.

comment 19 happyjack date : 09/06/2009 time : 08.13

Advanced System Care is a free D/Load that finds many faults,Bit like Ian.!. Someone had a Prob with the Net Speed, cant find him now. It tunes up your Connection also.And gives you a shock.Try it and see.

comment 18 happyjack date : 09/06/2009 time : 06.06

Poofreadin, spelinz, who kares,long as u comunikate

comment 17 Its_Kant date : 09/06/2009 time : 05.03 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/KANTSPAGE Look@yourself before judging me

Mr Ian making more friends we all see..

comment 16 Ian date : 09/06/2009 time : 04.37 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

Noonin, words evolve, common couplets start off unhyphenated, then become hyphenated, finally become conjoined. But there are no solid rules, proof reader, proof-reader, proofreader are all acceptable, Google is not an authority on the English language, neither is the Oxford English Dictionary. They are for guidance purposes only.

comment 15 expresso date : 09/06/2009 time : 03.41 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/expresso

noonin, I don't want you an enemy because I value character and you so far are not a bad character to me. Ok, I'll do my best in my homework. Here it goes on my assignment: Noonin, would proofread or proof-read be an acceptable word(formerly) to be used in the context that you have used? ------------------------------- Still mistakes? Well, there's no chance for me ever becoming a teacher. Incidentally, my brother-in-law is the boss of an international school. He speaks such terrible English as compared to me, but he hires teachers with a minimum salary of USD2,000 a month. I am tempted to become an employ but I never like to teach for a salary. noonin, mind you, what I have said above has nothing to do with our personal communication on the subject of English here.

comment 14 noonin date : 09/06/2009 time : 00.53 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Homework for today. Correct this: Noonin, would proofread or proof-read be acceptable (formerly) in the context that you have used?

comment 13 noonin date : 09/06/2009 time : 00.47 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

comment 11 Vicious lyrics by Lou Reed. ... Vicious You hit me with a flower. You do it every hour. Ohh, baby youre so vicious. Vicious ...

comment 12 noonin date : 08/06/2009 time : 23.58 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

proofread according to google. I prefer proof read, However or how ever.

comment 11 expresso date : 08/06/2009 time : 23.35 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/expresso

I have learned something in this blog. I never previously paid attention to the difference between 'arrive in' and 'arrive at'. Thanks Ian. Noonin, would proofread or proof-read be acceptable (formerly) in the context that you have used?

comment 10 noonin date : 08/06/2009 time : 23.34 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

5555555555 same same! Which is a sign of mature intellect?

comment 9 noonin date : 08/06/2009 time : 22.36 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Comment 7 Thank you Ian. You are too sensible to vote for the British Nazi Party.

comment 8 wch date : 08/06/2009 time : 21.59

Master Ian descended before me. Q to A is done.

comment 7 Ian date : 08/06/2009 time : 21.49 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

Noonin, if you say 555 in Thai it becomes hahaha it is quicker to type than You arrive in Malaysia and arrive in Kuala Lumpur. To arrive at Malaysia implies you have reached the border (ingoing). But newspapers and timetables have their own version of English, you must be bored today Master Piset

comment 6 noonin date : 08/06/2009 time : 21.47 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

wch Are you saying you need Ian to explain? Ian I too ask , what is 5555? I hope it is not vulgar.

comment 5 wch date : 08/06/2009 time : 21.22

My 5555 at his calling Master Ian.

comment 4 noonin date : 08/06/2009 time : 21.05 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Sorry to be naive, ignorant, but what is 5555?

comment 3 noonin date : 08/06/2009 time : 21.03 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

English proverb: The pot should not call the kettle black.

comment 2 noonin date : 08/06/2009 time : 20.44 http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

I will correct you. Please correct me, if I were (am) wrong. (Otherwise) (superfluous), please advice (advise)the nation's editorial staff (what should be corrected). To use English correctly Please correct me if I am wrong, but please advise "The Nation's" editorial staff to proof read before publishing. Arrived in Kuala Lumpur

comment 1 wch date : 08/06/2009 time : 20.28

5555

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