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Thursday , July 2 , 2009
The witch hunt is started.
Posted by Ian , Reader : 1171 , 02:49:56  
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I think no comment is really needed, just read:

FCCT board faces police probe over lese majeste
By Pravit Rojanaphruk
The Nation
Published on July 2, 2009

For the first time in its five-decade history, the whole board of the Foreign Correspondents' Club of Thailand (FCCT) has been accused of committing lese majeste, a crime with a maximum jail sentence of 15 years. 
 

Laksana Kornsilpa, 57, a translator and a critic of ousted and convicted former premier Thaksin Shinawatra filed a lese majeste complaint against the 13-member board at Lumpini police station on Tuesday night.

Laksana was quoted on ASTV Manager website as claiming the board's decision to sell DVD copies of Jakrapob Penkair's controversial speech at the club back in 2007 constituted an act of lese majeste.

She alleged that the whole board "may be acting in an organised fashion and the goal may be to undermine the credibility of the high institution of Thailand".

ASTV Manager daily also quoted Laksana as saying some major local newspapers may also part of a movement to undermine the monarchy.

FCCT president Marwaan Macan-Markar said the board members have decided not to give separate interviews. It issued a statement saying: "The FCCT will cooperate with such an inquiry [by the police]."

The board, includes three British nationals including the BBC's Bangkok correspondent Jonathan Head, three American nationals, including two working for Bloomberg and the Wall Street Journal, an Australian national and a Thai news reader for Channel 3, Karuna Buakamsri.

Social critic and lese majeste case defendant Sulak Sivaraksa, reacting to the news, told The Nation yesterday that "the problem of [abusing] lese majeste law is now utterly messy".

"The fact that leading world intellectuals like Noam Chomsky and others have petitioned to [PM] Abhisit [Vejjajiva to reform the law] is a testimony to it. If we let it goes on like this it will get even messier. It's time for the government to do something."

A source within the FCCT, speaking on condition of anonymity, said he was "surprised" at the latest allegation, which came after two years of the speech being made, adding that "it places Thailand in a very poor light".

DVDs were set up largely for club members who missed interesting talks and sales are restricted solely for FCCT members. Few copies of the Jakrapob talk are understood to have been sold because a manuscript of his talk circulated in Bangkok shortly after he was charged, and the video can be downloaded free from some websites.

In the comments' section on ASTV Manager's website, most posters expressed support for Laksana and praised her for the move.


One said: "Put them in jail for 99 years."

Another asked the site to post a picture of Jonathan Head so the person could attack him if he or she ran into him.

Apart from the sheer lunacy of this move and the further damage to Thailand's international image, the comments from the ASTV website shows that a co-ordinated Xenophobic attitude against the West is being created.  How long before Farangs are randomly attacked because they are Farangs?

This is Hitler and the Jews starting to repeat. Even if the case is dismissed the public sentiments remain.


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comment 129
notdisappointed date : 07/07/2009 time : 20.31

bb, I moved over to your blog to share/discuss herd/mob.

No sparks yet since I think Ian's asleep now.
His new incarnation after his return to England has me a bit worried and frustrated.
comment 128
bzzzzzBee date : 07/07/2009 time : 18.20
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/beehive

ND ... i always like to think of worst case scenarios and work myself up from there ... and pray hard that i am wrong. ... saner heads must prevail to avoid this ... but i shudder when i start talking about "mob mentality" or "herd mentality" that i constantly see among the general population (no offence meant).
comment 127
notdisappointed date : 07/07/2009 time : 17.33

bb, they have a barbecue using buses and cars with Molotov cocktails.

It might happen; if it does it'll be bloody, depending whose side the military is on. Then there'll be a 'cleansing'.

I wouldn't even want to think about the repercussions that such a sceanrio would rbing on. And it was rational for the PAD to remain silent when the reds went on their rampage during Songkran.
comment 126
bzzzzzBee date : 07/07/2009 time : 17.19
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/beehive

C-125 Red & White .... what happens when two "mobs" meet head-on in a confrontation?
comment 125
redandwhitestripes date : 07/07/2009 time : 09.41
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/reallifethailand

Ian, I would disagree because the LM charge is being filed most frequently against Thai people. There may be a mob mentality but it's possible that that mob may push their own people too far. Even Thais will stand up and say "This isn't fair" back at some point.
comment 124
HA_HA date : 06/07/2009 time : 21.49

There was much discussion of LM in Thai blogs a few months ago after some people used it to get rid of their political enemy.

Some suggested LM should be treated like any libel case. Complaint should be filed by the person damaged... or in this case should be the Royal Household bureau.

c44/54, mr. Alien ..very funny... US is a great country. Sometimes I feel bad to your president that people believe in Hollywood conspiracy movie more than him. I think the US would win the war either in Iraq or Afganistan long ago if your people have less opinion ...haha
comment 123
Ian date : 06/07/2009 time : 20.33
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

BR 117, I am not quite sure what you are referring to, I am aware that you and ND got rather personal with each other on another blog, this has no relevance in this blog, it is "blog spill". Further I am neither a guru or powerful, anyone who writes a blog has the power to delete within that blog.

As to ND, R&W, etc, sometimes one needs to be dramatic to make a point, I am sensitive to atmosphere, and it is changing in Thailand. I no longer feel relaxed when I am in Thailand, I can feel my 6th sense radar constantly scanning for threats. when I step off the plane I feel my mental defenses clanging into place.
I am not given to over imagination, my life and experiences mediate against that, but I am very sensitive to undercurrents and there are plenty of them in Thailand at the moment. As BB said I can sense the "mob mentality" waking up.
comment 122
bzzzzzBee date : 06/07/2009 time : 18.52
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/beehive

ian ... two words could probably answer the many WHYs .... mob mentality
comment 121
notdisappointed date : 06/07/2009 time : 18.13

Ian, after re-reading you blog, especially the last two paragraphs, I am amazed by your strong but indefensible and unfair statements.

I doubt that the situation will ever devolve down to that level as you try to portray. You're more sensible than that Ian to make such unfounded summation and allegations.

Sensibility will prevail; it's not as though we are a Myanmar or South Korea.
comment 120
GGrass date : 06/07/2009 time : 15.42
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/GGrass


comment 119
happyjack date : 06/07/2009 time : 12.48

Tadpoles love Potholes.im going to chuck stones in Panda Baby Pit.lah de dah.
comment 118
GGrass date : 06/07/2009 time : 11.27
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/GGrass

I can't believe while all this was going on, I was talking about tadpoles and stuff...
comment 117
BangkokRay date : 06/07/2009 time : 10.26

Ian,
Of ccourse, the prim and proper UK folks wouldn't think of engaging in such. It sure seems to me that you lash out when you feel insulted about your life in LOS or your gf is brought into a conversation. Yet when it happens to somebody else, it's a poor reflection on thier nation. Your high and mighty guru status and ability to delete a post doesn't impress me even a little.
comment 116
redandwhitestripes date : 06/07/2009 time : 08.00
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/reallifethailand

I agree with you right to the final two sentences Ian. They disappointed me as it should be below someone of your calibre to use a lazy analogy like that.

Obviously we can't discuss things too extensively here but I'm sure we both agree that the ultimate goal of the people pressing lese majeste charges is not ethnic cleansing, but simply to intimidate people who might be tempted to discuss certain things. There's a difference.

BTW Are you in the UK or Thailand right now?
comment 115
sven date : 06/07/2009 time : 03.32
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/sven

Ian, bad news, indeed.

Felix, c 56, there never has been a law to round up, let alone murder, Jews. This was an internal SS order. Otherwise, you're right. The Holocaust was helped by a very common feeling that "they are against us and hurt us".

I don't think the LM law itself is the problem, as insult and defamation against anybody is illegal, too.
comment 114
notdisappointed date : 06/07/2009 time : 02.29

Ian, you're exaagerating I'm sure; "Are we seeing American versus Thai, if so it reflects badly on both their nations." It anything it will reflect badly on the two protagonists.

That's OK I can handle it just to show my all-around capabilities!

comment 113
Ian date : 06/07/2009 time : 01.39
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

It's not often I agree with Noonin , comment 109
Are we seeing American versus Thai, if so it reflects badly on both their nations.
I think I understand what Noonin meant elsewhere when he referred to base language.
Would be tempted to delete all this to and fro abuse, but then Expresso would jump in and say that was not right.
Just can't win in these blogs
comment 112
notdisappointed date : 06/07/2009 time : 00.22

temper, temper br!

You're showing your dark side.

I actually answered you about my family on another blog so I won't respond here. But you've shown yourself to be quite the emotional one, huh; twisted and hair-triggered. Relax and cool down a bit; tell your wife to get you a beer of sumtin'.
comment 111
BangkokRay date : 06/07/2009 time : 00.15

nd,
Are you learning tricks from your lady-boy friends? Did you teach your daughters these tricks of the trade? Does your wife tollerate such behavior? Did your parents raise you this way?
How does it feel asshole?
comment 110
notdisappointed date : 06/07/2009 time : 00.13

nn, I respond in kind to the level that is presented me.

You may have noticed this yourself with guan teen 55.
comment 109
noonin date : 06/07/2009 time : 00.01
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Interesting blog!
Very juvenile.
Do you want it published?
The farang has his say in Thailand !
comment 108
notdisappointed date : 05/07/2009 time : 23.58

br, temper, temper!

I couldn't even guess what you were talking about in your 105. You tried too hard to make a comment that you didn't think it through. I was commenting to your 92; and you answered what?

Next time take a breath, then think, put your thoughts in order, then write; this will avoid you gettting any dodo from me and you wouldn't have to respond with your shit.

Hey cool down! I'm not your wife that I have to know your every thoughts and take care of all your needs, even to filling up your beer glass. I'd piss in it first anyways.
comment 107
BangkokRay date : 05/07/2009 time : 23.31

Hey, asshole, I was responding to your c104. You talk your shit and make your accusations. You talk dodo and I'll give you shit in return. Understand, Charlie Brown?
comment 106
notdisappointed date : 05/07/2009 time : 23.07

br like Al you like to SUERK in other people's business. My discussion with hermione is two-sided and refers to his comments to me personally. It does not involve you and you do not know its origin, but you try to butt in anyways about something that you are unawares.

In Thai we call it "SUERK"!
comment 105
BangkokRay date : 05/07/2009 time : 22.41

nd,
Guess you could consider the many folks that you consider "stupid, retarded, uninformed, farangs". You know, those folks like yourself that could likely be considered a farang? It's quite obvious that your American upbringing didn't provide you much insight.
comment 104
notdisappointed date : 05/07/2009 time : 21.46

br, 92,

"Don't you understand that when you post too many facts that these bozos can't defend, they resort to censorship?"

This is what you call constructive criticism? Even you referral to me regarding prozac, meds and etc c.50, 69, 75 are considered in your view to be "when we try to give some constructive criticism to the way things operate here in LOS?"

Who's the "we" you refer to? Not yourself I think.
comment 103
notdisappointed date : 05/07/2009 time : 21.37

hermione 94, I'm just stated what's obvious. Your qtes on numbers don't impress that much except yourself and they do not translate to you being less of an idiot or increasing your lack of common sense.

But you forget I also said you were a clown; that you didn't mention this must be that your psyche admits it.
comment 102
notdisappointed date : 05/07/2009 time : 21.25

The witch hunt is over!!

WE have found our witches!!

They are maxwell and pj supported by various demons and hoary warted frogs and jesters. Their slow chant of it's the coup!! It's the coup!! over their cauldron seeks to remedy decades of graft, corruption, and pilferage. They are so strongly against AV, the LM law, and anything that is Royalist/elitist that they will support the master illusionist and deceiver blindly.
comment 101
peacefulness date : 05/07/2009 time : 21.15
nationmultimedia.com

dear felix qui my friend--- pls refer bkkray's comment 143/144 "random after-thoughts" u will understand what i mean!!!!!

Qte
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comment 144
peacefulness date : 24/06/2009 time : 21.03
nationmultimedia.com



c143---who cares about "Spelling and grammer" hahahahaha....... spelling and GRAMMER, spelling and GRAMMER, spelling and GRAMMER.

what a mentally retarded, miserable imbecile!!!!!!!!!

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comment 143
BangkokRay date : 24/06/2009 time : 19.29



#142,
Yep, and maybe you will win the 2009 North Korean "Spelling and grammer" award.
Unqte

take care my friend..... felix que
comment 100
FelixQui date : 05/07/2009 time : 21.00
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/FelixQui

peacefulness, re c.99,
As ever you provide strong evidence for your opponents. I am so glad you are not on my side.

You bring up the Dear Leader Kim Jong Il - a perfect example of the results of legally enforced censorship. This monster is deeply respected and loved in North Korea. Nothing but reverence is permitted, and any deviation is punished by truly draconian laws. It is probable that the great majority of North Koreans truly respect and admire their Dear Leader Kim Jong Il because there is no way they could know the truth about him: the law does not allow it. Their sincere reverence and respect is real, and utterly worthless, being based on censorhip enforced ignorance. Or do you think that such respect is of great worth? Perhaps you do feel that since it is legally enforced it must therefore be right. I hope I'm wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me if you did indeed think that. It would be consistent with your repeated statements on this forum. I must beg to disagree with you: Dear Leader Kim Jong Il is a monster, and the fact that his subjects revere and respect him out of rigorously enforced ignorance according to harsh and unjust laws does not make him anything but a monster. Unlike the benighted citizens of North Korea, we can have such knowledge.

peacefulness, do you sit up at night thinking of ways to help me?
My sincere thanks yet again.
comment 99
peacefulness date : 05/07/2009 time : 17.20
nationmultimedia.com

Comment92, bangkokray--
just fyi----Dear Leader Kim Jong Il of north korea courteously invites you to receive the 2009 spelling and "Grammer" award at your convenience.......

"vehimently","grammer", "teancity"......

hahahahahahaha.........

comment 98
happyjack date : 05/07/2009 time : 10.41

Hey Stripey, just crossed my mind,must have been a P.C.signwriter, you cant say PAKI in England.!
comment 97
happyjack date : 05/07/2009 time : 10.33

Ian,this Guys lost,dont bother.Just take the Piss.
comment 96
happyjack date : 05/07/2009 time : 10.26

Glad you were never a Code breaker,bit hard to get the meaning was it.Ill stand in the Corner.
comment 95
redandwhitestripes date : 05/07/2009 time : 10.12
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/reallifethailand

c68 "i pass every day has recently added PARKISTAN,above the Muslim Mosque original sign. i read it as they want to distance them self from the Militants. What do you Think."

I think they can't spell very well.
comment 94
Hermano_Lobo date : 05/07/2009 time : 07.25
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez

notjustdysfunctional-

I have 105,000 + 40,000 from the old blogs; reasons why I am here. The Nation does well on my advertising.

You are the first to say I am an idiot and lacking incommon sense.

When will you go back to being your alter ego pissfulness, or is it Thanong ?
comment 93
Ian date : 05/07/2009 time : 07.20
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

Noonin, you are a pretentious prat, this is the second time today you have referred to my private life. Shall we start discussing your wife and children?
comment 92
BangkokRay date : 04/07/2009 time : 23.32

nd, #74,
If you truly mean what you said in this comment, why do you argue so vehimently when we try to give some constructive criticisim to the way things operate here in LOS?
comment 91
noonin date : 04/07/2009 time : 22.05
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

I used to think women were bitchy

How do you view them now?
I recall a previous wife was a lawyer, perhaps she could help to state whatever it is you wish to state.
comment 90
Ian date : 04/07/2009 time : 21.26
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

Noonin,83. I believe my usage is called the "Graphic historic" or more rudely called "journalese", it is intentional miss use for impact.
As to reason, that flew out the window a long time ago, I suspect it never was very happy living here. I used to think women were bitchy
comment 89
notdisappointed date : 04/07/2009 time : 20.11

hermione lack of commonsense, clownish attitude, and idiocy actually go well together; you are the living proof!
comment 88
noonin date : 04/07/2009 time : 19.36
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

This is Hitler and the Jews starting to repeat. Even if the case is dismissed the public sentiments remain.
comment 87
noonin date : 04/07/2009 time : 19.32
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Here are your friends Ian, ;trust them!
comment 86
noonin date : 04/07/2009 time : 19.30
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

I am a Farang, but I do not work for Nation!
comment 85
noonin date : 04/07/2009 time : 19.28
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Comment 81
What?
Explain.
Bombast is not acceptable!
comment 84
Hermano_Lobo date : 04/07/2009 time : 19.25
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez

nd and pissfulness seem to work in tandem
When pissfulness is on the block, nd goes quiet and vice versa.

The Nation has a couple of farangs working for them
comment 83
noonin date : 04/07/2009 time : 19.25
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Yes it should be the witch hunt has started.
comment 82
noonin date : 04/07/2009 time : 19.22
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Friends!
comment 81
Hermano_Lobo date : 04/07/2009 time : 19.22
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez

Now here's novelty -
"just as commonsense is not your normal thought processes. Having said that, you must be the most idiotic person on this blog"

First I have been accused of not having common sense and being idiotic.

Mad, eccentric and a bit of a joker I have been accused of.

nd - are you a total wanker or do you just work at it ?
comment 80
noonin date : 04/07/2009 time : 19.20
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Happyjack is the epitome of a Brit?
What happened to reason Ian?
comment 79
Ian date : 04/07/2009 time : 19.11
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

Well HJ, I guess us Brits need to keep quiet today, let the Yanks have their moment of glory
Your mosque I think is saying the opposite of what you think, Pakistan is full of militants.
comment 78
FelixQui date : 04/07/2009 time : 18.53
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/FelixQui

also re. nd's c.74,
Based on a great constitution that has proved its excellence over time and a justice system second to none for actually delivering justice and keeping the state and government in line.
comment 77
FelixQui date : 04/07/2009 time : 18.50
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/FelixQui

nd, re c.74,
I agree completely.
comment 76
noonin date : 04/07/2009 time : 18.41
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Beethoven's Seventh
comment 75
BangkokRay date : 04/07/2009 time : 17.05

nd, #70,
Do you really believe I need allies to gang up on you? I think your ego is way out of check if you do think so. One can only hope you can recover from your superiority complex.
I will be sure to let you know if I need to recruit allies, OK?
comment 74
notdisappointed date : 04/07/2009 time : 17.01

And

Happy Independence Day to all Americans.

you may not know it but you guys live in the greatest country in the world based on democracy, economy and miltarily.

I get goose bumps whenever I think of being on the Commons and waiting for the Boston Symphony to play 1812 Overture!
comment 73
noonin date : 04/07/2009 time : 16.42
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Ian food for thought, these contributors are your friends. What happened to you?
comment 72
BangkokRay date : 04/07/2009 time : 15.52

Alien, #71,
Agree, but it is only temporary. I'll be recovered by early October. Watching Yankees beating Toronto now.
comment 71
Alien date : 04/07/2009 time : 14.30
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/alien

BR has an inferiority complex. The Yankees are still in second place!
comment 70
notdisappointed date : 04/07/2009 time : 12.40

br, must we forever be sparring with each other? And must you then seek allies for a gang-banger.

You were you either a bully when you were young that you like to pick on people or that you yourself wete picked on so those repressed feelings now come to light in your successful retirement.

We seem to be misunderstanding each other. Don't make other people's fight your own. Don't try to find allies in your depression.
comment 69
BangkokRay date : 04/07/2009 time : 10.25

nd, #67 writes

Having said that, you must be the most idiotic person on this blog (excepting the gonad steven)

Yuri,
That is a compliment, considering the source. Seems like you have replaced me with this distinction.
comment 68
happyjack date : 04/07/2009 time : 09.50

Ian,food for thought.A Mosque i pass every day has recently added PARKISTAN,above the Muslim Mosque original sign. i read it as they want to distance them self from the Militants. What do you Think.
comment 67
notdisappointed date : 04/07/2009 time : 00.01

hermione, will your inanities never cease?

I understand that English is not your mother tongue just as commonsense is not your normal thought processes. Having said that, you must be the most idiotic person on this blog (excepting the gonad steven) to be able to, all on your own, come up with that brainiac conclusion that I am Thanong or that he is I.

I already told you: I am perfectly myself!

Youi have shown you are perfectly yourself - a clown
comment 66
happyjack date : 03/07/2009 time : 19.54

C64.She did get that Desk Tidy with it..!.
comment 65
Hermano_Lobo date : 03/07/2009 time : 18.53
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez

pissfulness wrote,"LM law will be in the royal kingdom of thailand for a long long time."

Ten years maximum.

Nature's Laws are finite.

nd aka Thanong-
In Russia, they even believe the butterflies are spying
comment 64
panya date : 03/07/2009 time : 18.19
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/diversion

happyjack C62


comment 63
happyjack date : 03/07/2009 time : 16.37

Look at the Time.The Guvnor should be up soon
comment 62
happyjack date : 03/07/2009 time : 16.33

N.D. will you stop calling Max Headroom, maxwell, my heart jumps when i speedread.I keep reading it as marwell, the company that makes Handbags.I jump, another 10K gone, and look to see if the Cars still outside.
comment 61
wch date : 03/07/2009 time : 16.17

After WW II, the deadline of literacy and illiteracy was if one can read and write in basic papers such as in the forms for birth certificate and resident certificate.

Today the line is if one can read a newspaper or not.
A report said second years of college can understand about 75% of newspaper vocabularies and far below to write his own opinion on an article. This is not much different in many developed nations.

For instance, Why Thailand has no 3G connection ?.
To this simple question, I guess 90% of present bloggers and commentators are unable to understand and explain possible reasons.
In 90s, there was a word, 'computer blind'.

Therefore, the level to distinguish the literate and the illiterate is moving up fast.
comment 60
notdisappointed date : 03/07/2009 time : 16.07

I think that my views and opinions are more pragmatic then most of you anti-coup bloggers, e.g.maxwell and pj.

I have not heard even a whimper as to your thoughts on the propriety of the petition to get a Royal amnesty for thaksin.

Don't you care enough for this minor detail that you have to rant about the LM law?
comment 59
notdisappointed date : 03/07/2009 time : 15.43

“Though the seas threaten, they are merciful”, says Ferdinand, a character in Shakespeare’s play the ‘Tempest’. “I have cursed them without cause”

Those against the LM law should consider the possibility that you could honestly make a similar declaration about some issue you have in the world.

So who loses and who gains by striking down this law. Would it give more ammunition to the reds or the yellows. Without it would it be easier for vicious people to directly attack, without fear of retribution, the King and Monarchy?

Yes the law may be antiquated and used badly for political and intimidation purposes; but who protects my King from dishonest and those seeking gain by ‘bringing him down to earth’ - you maxwell; you pj? I think not.

Maxwell, I care not where the yellows stand. That they stand against thaksin and his crew, specifically is all I care about. Their other platforms of grievances have to be proven and articulated; I’m not a toddler to believe everything told and said to me without checking first.

I no longer have to say: It’s taksin’s fault!

Though you continue to say:

It’s the Coup!!

It’s the Coup!!

It’s the Coup!!
comment 58
notdisappointed date : 03/07/2009 time : 15.27

fq, laws will change with the circumstances. I believe I read that there was this 125 year old law in GB that was just rescinded.

Thanks for your concern we will get there when we get there. I never said I supported the LM law nor did I say that its frivolous use is acceptable.

Ian it's up to pj to seek his own answer to his beliefs he isn't a 'toddler' is he? To only believe what he hears? And sorry I'd rather not translate the text from Thai to English to prove what I heard. I can look for it in my files for pj to send to but he'll always think it was doctored.
comment 57
notdisappointed date : 03/07/2009 time : 15.21

Yuri c43; I beg your pardon! I think that I am just a bit more articulate than your friend Thanong.

Give me some credit for being perfectly myself!

No need to look for spies under the bed or in your clothes closet. Your paranoia is not very becoming.

br anyting else you'd like to add in your own inimitable way?
comment 56
FelixQui date : 03/07/2009 time : 13.55
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/FelixQui

Peacefulness, re. c55 and all the rest,
I am very glad you are on the opposing side, since you provide such strong arguments agianst the LM laws and the entire legal system of Thailand.

Your argument is, basically, that if it's in the law it must be right and should be obeyed. This fits perfectly with Ian's opening comment about Hitler and the Jews: it was the law in Germany at the time, and therefore it was right. Presumably you too buy into this monstrous excuse for Hitler's evil, since you repeatedly state EXACTLY the same argument to support Thailand's LM laws.

You are completely and utterly wrong. The fact that such laws have been in existence since 1908 does not make them right; rather, it shows that every constitution and the other laws that implement LM are all unjust and immoral. That the highest legal document in the land is so tainted is a stain on that document, not a reason that makes the suppression of peacefully expressed opinions, albeit offensive, acceptable.

But do please continue to repeat your arguments. I can do with the support that comes from your clearly showing how appallingly evil the opposing arguments are. Do you really believe that it was right and proper for Germans to round up and murder millions of Jews because the law told them to?
comment 55
peacefulness date : 03/07/2009 time : 11.36
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hey guys---- as i mentioned in comment9 ""Laws regarding lèse majesté in Thailand have been in the Thai criminal code since 1908 "" that was during Chulalongkorn, the Great (Rama V) ¾ÃкҷÊÁà´ç¨¾ÃШØÅ¨ÍÁà¡ÅéÒà¨éÒÍÂÙèËÑÇ "¾ÃлÔÂÁËÒÃÒª" period, reign started 02oct1868 ended 23oct1910.

so pls do not blame any government , that LM law will be in the royal kingdom of thailand for a long long time. hopefully u guys know "when in rome, do as the romans do".

when their is a law, obey the law, if u choose not to obey , the law will punish u acrg to the law.
comment 54
Alien date : 03/07/2009 time : 11.29
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/alien

Hello Max. I too am under the impression that they use libel laws in Thailand to stifle critisism. I don't mind the LM laws, though. Don't say anything bad about the King and you still have over 59 million Thai people you can trash. Except of course, when they threaten to sue you.
comment 53
happyjack date : 03/07/2009 time : 10.35

Yo Ho,thats you Blocked Yuri, i cant cut or paste Wallpaper.
comment 52
MaxHeadroom date : 03/07/2009 time : 10.32
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/maxheadroom

The mere fact that anyone can file a 'complaint' which has the character of a pressing charges and accuses another person of a 'criminal act' is worrisome by itself. Especially, as it is almost always used as a political propaganda tool to denigrate political opponents, attack the freedom of the press or have incite fear that that the police might come to your doorsteps and drag you out for an inquiry or just cause you a lot of discomfort.

Most of all it has become an everyday tool that is used by the military junta and their puppets to suppress critical voices and limit freedom of speech.

Ian is right and I said it in another reply: there is a xenophobic undercurrent here that has to be subdued. This undercurrent represents a minority in Thailand today - but so were the Nazis at the beginning of their rise to power. Civil society has to oppose radicalism.

We have to remove legal witch hunt relics from our legal system that provide loopholes for individual lunatics to wreak havoc on our country's international reputation such as be infantile press stunts like these.

ND: so how about yellow? It's a club of xenophobic right wing cultists with violent tendencies and fascistic propaganda channel - ASTV.

The truth hurts - right
comment 51
happyjack date : 03/07/2009 time : 10.27

A WAP Phone Yuri, isnt that to close to WOP for the P.C.Pansies.
comment 50
BangkokRay date : 03/07/2009 time : 08.36

Yuri, #43,
I said the same thing a while back. Am still not convinced that they are two in the same. However, nd's alter ego has gone silent on these blogs. Creating blogs but not posting on them.
comment 49
wch date : 03/07/2009 time : 08.00

I think this issue got old as long as 5 years but even an inch couldn't step. All are same people in same style and same knowledge,,,,finally end up like rooster fight.

Today let me toss some principle for study.

In general, legal contest of defamation forms only when the defamed seeks for justice and sue the defamer to the judicial branch where the defamation took place.

Thai LM law, commonly called, but does not exist as an independent executive law but forms a 'sub-article under the whole article that deals general defamation case in the criminal law.

Therefore, the lese majeste means naturally the defamation toward the majesties. This forms mostly when a party accuses or publicises a falsity toward the mejesties with intention of causing defamation. When a party do same out of truth, it can not form the defamation case.

Problem is, the majesties are not supposed to be the filer of suit because he is the head of a sovereignty and it is improper for a head of a soveignty to sue against his subject.

This seemed to have made that any third party can become the filer of suit to the judicial system.
This is against the principle of the law.

Only when the third party can do it must be after an formal inquiry if do it or not, through the royal institute such as the privy council firsthand.
If the privies consent on the third party's intention of suit, the third party can continue.

However, under the present system, the third party can file suit to any convenient police department.

This works as 'hooking' or 'gagging' the party accused. It takes long long time like 3 years.
During this period, the accused suffer various disadvantages.

Also with bad intention, the law is frequently used by opponent politician to go and catch another opponent politicians.

As I suggested, the suit is legally formed when the privy councillors gives consent.
The law must be improved in that way.
comment 48
Hermano_Lobo date : 03/07/2009 time : 04.05
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez

Sorry about that Ian - I don't have problems with photos even with a wap phone.
Yes, my Thai web site has been blown away.
Probably because of the link to NewOrangeCafe.
comment 47
Pomjuk date : 03/07/2009 time : 02.36
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/pomjuk

Respect is something one earns not enforces.
comment 46
Ian date : 03/07/2009 time : 02.22
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

peacefulness, would you rather be respected because of your actions, deeds and words; or because the law says I have to do so? Which respect would you value more?
comment 45
Ian date : 03/07/2009 time : 02.19
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

Yuri, do me a favour please, don't start doing a peacefulness on my blogs, pictures slow things down and rarely add anything of value.
I am also a bit disturbed by your comment 37, just a link is fine, copy and paste is not.
comment 44
Alien date : 03/07/2009 time : 02.15
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/alien

I'm glad we don't have the LM laws in the U. S. Trashing our president is great sport here. I wouldn't have it any other way. Especially since I haven't liked any of our presidents for a long time. I usually like them for 4 or 5 months and then I hate them. Familiarity breeds contempt!
comment 43
Hermano_Lobo date : 03/07/2009 time : 01.13
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez

notdisappointed-

Do you realise your writing style is very much like Thanong's ?

Well that's what my 'Prose Analyser' says.
All the best security agencies have them
comment 42
happyjack date : 02/07/2009 time : 22.26

Oh NO,not the Ferangs where would we get our Luxuries From.Benzes and Mobiles don't grow even in our fine soil.
comment 41
happyjack date : 02/07/2009 time : 22.19

C37.Hermano,how come i never get mystery shut downs,and intrigue.The only shut downs i get is when it Rains, Jack the Ripper, my Dog,chews the Cable, a part that always costs 1200 Bht Explodes,im sure it would still cost 1200 if the bloody lot exploded[Thai Way], or if Er Indoors tries to use it.Linux user Knows everthing.
comment 40
Hermano_Lobo date : 02/07/2009 time : 22.06
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez


Oh for the Roman Coliseum !

Throw the journalists and farangs to the Tigers and Lions !
comment 39
Hermano_Lobo date : 02/07/2009 time : 21.56
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez


C'mon, let's stop pussyfooting around here ?

In jail for 99 years ?

Let's have a public flogging ! Bring out the gallows or burn them alive. These journalists need to be taught a lesson.

Let the public have a spectacle, blood and more blood.

When they have finished with the journalists. Go for the ex-pat farangs who leech of Thailand !

Then any farang tourists, they are bound to be up to no good !

Hang 'Em High !
comment 38
happyjack date : 02/07/2009 time : 21.51

Dear Red and White Stripes,the Worry is all mine.
comment 37
Hermano_Lobo date : 02/07/2009 time : 21.49
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez

Indeed the Thai-Nazis are beginning to move.

I had a Thai dedicated web site that covered TEFL, Thai travel , New Orangecafe etc. It also linked to sites where there is free speech.

Hosted from the USA, it has just been Blitzed. I can't even get into the e-mail !

P.S
Ian, I think the heat is getting to your English. That should be 'The Witch Hunt is starting' or 'The Witch Hunt has started' - nicht wahr ?
comment 36
redandwhitestripes date : 02/07/2009 time : 21.14
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/reallifethailand

I agree with C6, which is worrying given the source.
comment 35
peacefulness date : 02/07/2009 time : 20.43
nationmultimedia.com

felix qui--- just fyi, countries still hv LM law up to nowadays such as: thailand,the netherlands, spain, denmark, turkey, morocco, brunei, kuwait .

gernmany , switzerland,poland it is illegal to insult foreign heads of state publicly.

even in england and wales "Contempt of the Sovereign is an offence under the common law of England and Wales, but today has fallen into disuse, and most give respect to the Sovereign out of common courtesy.
comment 34
Hermano_Lobo date : 02/07/2009 time : 20.30
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez


The Final Solution must be achieved. The Farang problem will not go away until they are dealt with.
comment 33
Hermano_Lobo date : 02/07/2009 time : 20.25
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez


The Fuerher smiled. Then the High Command smiled. Then the Fuerher scowled,"Have they attacked any journalists?"
comment 32
notdisappointed date : 02/07/2009 time : 20.22

c5, don't be a kant! Do me a favor, give it a rest. There are more and others who deserve your scorn and attacks than Ian does.

Your blogs show one thing but your attacks show you in a different light. You are showing the typical 'red' symtoms of mindless attacks with little logic.

Settle down OK?
comment 31
Hermano_Lobo date : 02/07/2009 time : 20.22
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/yurivelasquez


A faint smile slowly emerged on Uncle Joe's face.
comment 30
peacefulness date : 02/07/2009 time : 20.17
nationmultimedia.com


felix qui C24 -- pls ref my comment on sul's blog "Jan 19, 2009
Royal insult: Writer faces jail"

Qte comment 32
peacefulness date : 20/01/2009 time : 11.04
nationmultimedia.com





As reported by local newspapers such as matichon/bkk post , harry nicholaides41 , entered Thailand in 2003 a lecturer in social psychology at the Prince of Songkla univ, and moved to teach tourism and hotel management at Mae Fah Luang univ. on the later days.

As an author and univ. lecturer and more than 5yrs living in Thailand, he should fully understand the DOs and DON’Ts when residing in Thailand, especially the most respected institute by all Thais “the Monarchy”.

Thai constitution 2007, Section 8. “The King shall be enthroned in a position of revered worship and shall not be violated.
No person shall expose the King to any sort of accusation or action.”

His book “verisimilitude”published in 2005, acrdg to judge “HE HAS WRITTEN A BOOK THAT SLANDERED THE KING , THE CROWN PRINCE OF THAILAND AND THE MONARCHY” , the verdict “6yrs jail term but due to his confess the criminal court commuted the jail term to half , 3 years in jail, acrdg to criminal penal code 112 maximum penalty 15yrs, this is a leniency from the judges.

Pics, the moment of truth. Why? Why????? I did it myself.
Unqte
comment 29
Ian date : 02/07/2009 time : 20.11
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

ND, there is an old saying, "never believe anything until it is officially denied"
If you feel that Jac is telling lies then the best way is to publish them and attack them. By banning his words you make them important.
By censorship and LM charges you make intelligent people ask what is being hidden and covered up.
Truth grows best in the light of day, lies flourish in the dark.
comment 28
notdisappointed date : 02/07/2009 time : 20.10

What truths do you wish to state about your King pj?
comment 27
notdisappointed date : 02/07/2009 time : 20.09

And what of you pj? Are you a toddler believing the propaganda of your reds or maxwell. I asked you on another blog; do you believe what da torpedoe or jakrapop had to say about their inflammatory remarks against Monarchy or HMK?

Are you a loyal Thai subject of HMK or is it just a 'pose' that you make in front of Rama V picture? Living in America had you not heard the remarks of jakrapop's when he was there after the coup? It was more inflammatory then his speech before the FCCT. Did you agree with it. Have you heard it in its full entirety?

Sometimes we need laws to make examples of people like da and jakrapop.

But in your disgust against coup have you sided with the devil to spite your nose?

Its the coup!!

Its the coup!!

Its the coup!!

Look beyond your dislikes and see with an open mind all the facts in front of your face. You are a an educated and well-offed Thai; there's no reason for you to be manipulated and used as a tool. Were you here during the Songkran rampage? Or did you experience from TV footages. Where is the evidence of alleged deaths? BUt we know for sure that the reds parked gas ladened trucks in residential areas and had their barbecues and rampage; and killed two residents in Nang Lerng,

Open your eyes and talk to others who aren't red.
comment 26
Pomjuk date : 02/07/2009 time : 19.49
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/pomjuk

Only the ones who have something to hide are afraid to be discussed. Only the ones who cannot take the truth have objection to freedom of speech.

It is barbaric to put someone in jail for speaking his mind, much worse when he is expressing the facts.

One cannot run an organization without defining roles and responsibilities, the same is true for a country. Only toddlers make are exempted from the consequences of decisions making.
comment 25
notdisappointed date : 02/07/2009 time : 18.55

22,23,24

Agree with each and everyone of you.

It's a shame and a farce that this law is becoming a stain upon the legal system of this country, due not to HMK, but due to the animositic ways in which it is used to attack others; it's being used as a political tool. Whereas it should be apolitical.

But what to say; although I am disgusted by its present use against the FCCT I am also disgusted by the FCCT to sensationalize jakrapop's remarks here in Thailand and those in Los Angelese. Perhaps it'll make them think that freedom of speech is fine and dandy but it should not be used as a propaganda tool for people who knowingly and with vile intent try to undermine my King.

jakrapop is a scumbag and he should not be given the ability through the sale of the CDs to propagate his lies and deceits. FCCT should have some commonsense and propriety.

But please understand I stand by my c1 in any case.
comment 24
FelixQui date : 02/07/2009 time : 16.50
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/FelixQui

nd, re c.21,
I agree completely that Taksin's latest effort to seek a pardon is another blatant politicisation of the monarchy. That he is guilty does not make the current abusers innocent, as you note in your comment 1, with which I also fully agree. Perhaps it would benefit His Majesty more to annul laws that so incite self-serving wretches of all political colours to abuse him in such ways? This is where Abhisit has a narrow window in which to act.

You are right that I don't know what all the accused are alleged to have said (it isn't easy to come to know such), but I know what the Australian writer wrote, and he did not deserve a three year jail sentence for those few sentences. What are the comments that warranted a 15 year sentence? If you point me to them, I will check and then decide, but I find it very hard to beleive, unless the person was actually inciting a violent overthrow, that mere words, however unpleasant and offensive, could deserve a 15 year jail sentence. If in fact one of those currently in prison for 15 years was clearly inciting a violent overthrow of the political system (is that the case for any of them?), then I agree that that could well have warranted a lengthy prison sentence, as would the incitement of violence against gays, blacks, Jews or others. However, comments that are merely offensive, even deeply offensive, to gays, blacks or Jews are only the expression of an honestly held, albeit vile, opinion, and cannot deserve a lengthy prison term. Or do you think that causing offense by expressing a disgust or dislike of some group is adequate grounds for imprisonment? I do not. And incitement to violence can and should be be dealt with perfectly well by laws against incitement to violence. I assume that Thailand has such laws, but am open to correction on this point.

In case you are wondering, I am also opposed to Germany's holocaust denial laws, and not because I don't believe that Hitler's holocaust was every bit as murderous as generally accepted. I also find holocaust denials obnoxious in their falsehood, but if some ignorant idiots, or those not so ignorant, truly believe it, they should be able to state that ugly falsehood so that it can be rebutted. Of course, if someone said that Jews got what they deserved, that would arguably be an incitement to repeat the evil and deserve punishment, but it would be the opposite of a holocaust denial.

I did not mean that Abhisit should interfere in the judicial process, I meant that he should change the law that the judges execute, which is exactly the role of elected politicians.
comment 23
Ian date : 02/07/2009 time : 16.15
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

The British Queen is not just the Queen of Britain but also of the Commonwealth, she is respected by all, even though the monarchy as an institution comes under attack, in Australia, Canada and the UK itself.
She is a constitutional monarch, as such her powers are limited, yet her influence is great. This influence is based on her age, experience and statesmanship, and a genuine affection that most people feel for her.
Most of the above could equally be said about the Thai King, but there is one big difference. My Queen is discussed openly, she has this year asked for an increase in the Royal grant (her income), this has been openly debated, her son recently was fiercely criticised by the architects association, her grandchildren's military careers, girl friends, are the meat of many newspaper articles. None of them are protected by LM laws, the Royal institution is secure it needs no such protection.
Why does Thailand need these laws, when even the person this Law is supposed to protect has spoken out against it. This law does not protect the King, it damages his reputation. This Law is designed and used to protect those who invented it, to provide a weapon to attack political enemies. The king does not need this law, but those who lurk in the shadows do.
This law gives the lie to any claims that Thailand is a democratic, progressive country. It is an anachronism preserved for the benefit of the few.
Those who would defend this law are also anachronisms, this is why we see this law increasingly abused, they are dinosaurs thrashing about in the swamps of the past, even as the swamps dry out around them.
comment 22
noonin date : 02/07/2009 time : 15.49
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/noonin

Comment 21
No reporter is unbiased.
Neither are you or I.
Do we need to have the LAW to decide opinions!
comment 21
notdisappointed date : 02/07/2009 time : 15.12

fq c19, not to get into a slugfest or pedantic debate with you, but I would like to add my opinions to yours. And, before you construe that I think the LM law is right and proper for all cases, please look at my c1.

You are wrong they did deserve their verdict. You must not have heard their attacking rhetoric against Monarchy or HMK therefore you make your comment from a vacuum.

Head is not an unbiased reporter, he pushes his own biases onto the worldwide audience and therefore subtly manipulates those who have no idea what is happening in Thailand. His brand of small screen 'SMS' reporting leaves out details but puts in only hype. The better to make his mark as an activist reporter. He does a disservice to his profession.

thaksin and his ‘ilk’ not only ‘politicizes’ Thailand’s Monarchy; (as they are doing now with their ill-thought and improper petition for Royal amnesty, and their subtle and not so subtle attacks against HMK); and his closely held wish for republic. LM laws are most suitable for him and his ‘ilk’.

Abhisit cannot involve himself in the judiciary process as you would wish him to; do you want him to be another thaksin who seeks to tamper with the rule of law to ensure the rules are in his favor?

thaksin was not in the military per se, but he was a military cadet in the same class as Gen. Anupong and does have military connections because of this, which is just as good. He was a police cadet during the time when the police had their own armor battalions and worked hand-in-hand with your ‘military dictators’. He’s no innocent in the old style brand of power; he was actually nurtured by it. He just perfected it and made of it his ‘majority’ based ‘democratic dictatorship’.
comment 20
FelixQui date : 02/07/2009 time : 14.00
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/FelixQui

And in fairness to Abhisist, it is very much to his credit that he does not have a military background, or even a police background.
comment 19
FelixQui date : 02/07/2009 time : 13.51
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/FelixQui

peacefulness, re c.9,
You are wrong to say that "all those u mentioned deserved the sentence".
What is true is that they were all properly found guilty under teh law. However, legal guilt does not mean any wrong has been committed. When legal guilt is established and no wrong has been committed, it is the law itself that is in the wrong and unjust.

In pointing out that the LM laws are soundly based on the numerous Thai constitutions, you prove only that all of those constitutions are seriously defective in enshrining violations of this most basic human right, and the human right most necessary to a healthy, functional democracy. Perhaps you have here highlighted one reason why democracy has had such a rough time in Thailand, and continues to. And also why the People Against Democracy (PAD) are so fond of the LM laws.

That someone has filed an LM suit against Jonathon Head several times does not mean that Jonathon is even legally guilty, it merely means that the person who filed teh suit wants to hurt Jonathon - that is why the PAD and their ilk are so fond of the LM laws: they are a convenient tool to use against policial enemies and also serve to maintain ignorance on topics that matter to most Thai people. In so blatantly politicising the monarchy for their own ends, those who file these suits are seriously harming the monarchy, and that harm will endure forever in the historical record. Abhisit has a limited time in which to ensure that history passes a more favourable judgement than is possible today, and Abhisit has done absolutely nothing to fix this looming enshrinement, presumably because his handlers have forbidden him.

peacefulness wrote: "the judicial system in thailand is now back to its fomer glory and integrity" - I love it! I arrived in Chatchai's time as PM, and if memory serves me correctly, and I'm sure it does, that time truly reflects peacefulness's insight here, as do the reigns of Suchinda, Thanom , and all those other models of "glory and integrity". Taksin was certinaly corrupt, but I think he was hampered in the corruption stakes when competing with some of his predecessors by not being a military dictator and by not even having a military background.
comment 18
Al date : 02/07/2009 time : 13.49
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/albert

ND,
- may be you are not quite wrong...
Alright: "ND, I don't know Thailand that well but I want to know more . . . "
comment 17
notdisappointed date : 02/07/2009 time : 13.42

Al, I know you want something from me. I'll help you out - "Why don't you help me to overcome my ignorance? Pls convince me!"

I don't see how one can convince an ignorant person to overcome his ignorance.
How can you convince a donkey to not be a donkey?
How can you convince a crook to not be a crook?
How can you convince a Thai politician to be self-sacrificing and serve the interest of and for the public good.

How can you convince thaksin to be other than he is; a conniving selfish individual?

Therefore how can anyone care enough to take up your challenge and the heavy task to convince you to not be ignorant?
comment 16
notdisappointed date : 02/07/2009 time : 13.30

pj c8, it's a shame that you proudly pose in front of one of our revered Kings, Rama IV; and you can still support the likes of Da Torpedo and jakrapop. Have you ever listened to their derogatory improper remarks or do you you just follow what maxwell says? Listen with your heart not with your anger.

Yes best to go back to your cooking/travel blog; something you might know better about. Or don't forget your fledgling musical abilities.

Al, I think you are obssessed with me and so try to pre-emp an attack. Take it easy and don't give yourself away too easily. I know you are looking for the opportunity to spring one of your: "I don't know Thailand that well but I want to know more . . . "
comment 15
HA_HA date : 02/07/2009 time : 12.55

I just finished a memoir of a Chinese woman who has gone through the Chinese Cultural Revolution.
The situation..propoganda..the heroic chairman Mao, the tactic used to round up political enemy and to frighten people to speak of the truth, etc, reminded me of Thailand now.

I wish the Thai would realize how blind and how we have been used.
comment 14
Al date : 02/07/2009 time : 12.53
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/albert

peacefulness,
you gave me rather low marks.
Why don't you help me to overcome my ignorance? Pls convince me!
comment 13
Al date : 02/07/2009 time : 12.29
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/albert

c10
Sorry for writing 'ND' instead of 'peacefulness'...
What made me do this???
comment 12
peacefulness date : 02/07/2009 time : 12.25
nationmultimedia.com

comment10--- further more ur comment on krajog's blog
"K. Krajog,
it's a pity that politics and political attitudes make us fail so often. May be there is no field of human experience that make us more often caught in our own wishful thinking than politics. What's the reason for that? Are we married to our attitudes? I still believe that openness and independency is a sign of intelligence. "
clearly indicates that u are so naive, green and unsophisticated in thai politics same as those uninformd farangs.

may be i smell it since the early stage of your joinging in the nation blog site that is way i recommended u to read all krajog's blog......good luck youngman........
comment 11
peacefulness date : 02/07/2009 time : 12.13
nationmultimedia.com

comment10... u don't hv to worry anything, u just read and read and read all the krajog's excellent articles and comments expecially in politics, u will be more clever and clever, if u associate with those imbeciles such as hermanolobo/ian/catch22/happyjack/bkkray/ and all the Alikes , sorry to say that u will be more stupid and more ignorant.............

good day........ al , hopefully u will be clever one day young man....
comment 10
Al date : 02/07/2009 time : 12.00
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/albert

ND c9: "the judicial system in thailand is now back to its fomer glory and integrity ever since the collapse of the most corrupt, ousted deposed fugitive crimninal the square face plutocratic regime........"

So, we've all reasons to be optimistic. No reason to worry....
comment 9
peacefulness date : 02/07/2009 time : 11.06
nationmultimedia.com

just fyi-------i posted something likes this previously concerning "lèse majesté " and criminal code article 112....

"Laws regarding lèse majesté in Thailand have been in the Thai criminal code since 1908 and have also been enshrined in every constitution the Kingdom has ever had. The present charter simply reads: "The King shall be enthroned in a position of revered worship and shall not be violated. No person shall expose the King to any sort of accusation or action." The Thai Criminal code further states in Article 112: "Whoever defames, insults or threatens the King, Queen or the Heir-apparent, shall be punished with imprisonment of three to 15 years"

concerning jonathan head of bbc, my privious comment
"Fyi bbc correspondent Jonathan Head in many occasions insulted the monarchy and his articles are mostly nasty about our country Thailand. He was also the moderator of fcct’s seminar for Jakrapob on 29aug2007, jakrapob was charged lese majeste for his speech, now in police department for further investigation as requested by attorney general.

Pol lt col wattanasak mungkitjakardee filed law suit against jonathan head for three times for lese majeste, the latest on one 18apr08.
If u consider all the above mentoned, how can jonathan head will write something constructive beneficial for our country??????"

pomjuk--- all those u mentioned deserved the sentence, i also expect dr jile and ee-pen jakrapob come back and face the law and jailed acrdg to law......

the judicial system in thailand is now back to its fomer glory and integrity ever since the collapse of the most corrupt, ousted deposed fugitive crimninal the square face plutocratic regime........
comment 8
Pomjuk date : 02/07/2009 time : 09.42
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/pomjuk

Witch hunt has started a long time ago, for example Dah Torpedo (got 15 yrs?), Suwicha Thakor (got 11 yrs), Jiranuch Premchaiyaporn (awaiting trial) and many others are either in jail or awaiting the trials. Dr. Jai Ungpakorn and Jakrapob Penkair are forced out of the country. Prof. Somkied Tangnamo was force out of his position at Chiengmai University for signing petition for abolishment of LM law.

Let the foreign media know who the boss in Thailand is. They should learn that there is a limit to the freedom of speech before entering the kingdom of Thailand. Ironically when foreigners are sentenced to jail they are all pardoned but not the Thais.

Okay, I think I’m going back to my cooking/traveling blog.
comment 7
ChristySweet date : 02/07/2009 time : 07.33
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/ChristySweet

Thais are incapable of considering a future, that's why that cannot understand how damaging this law really is , and how it actually insults that which it is designed to,
" protect"
comment 6
happyjack date : 02/07/2009 time : 06.32

Excellent,it will Focus Attention Worldwide on the pathetic side of Thai Nationalism.It may be chucked out quickly to avoid this.Lets hope not
comment 5
Its_Kant date : 02/07/2009 time : 05.44
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/KANTSPAGE
Look@yourself before judging me

Mr Ian
BOO..
Whats the matter Mr Kants using the word "control "
made you have a change of heart and allow comments once again.

Mr Ian I must say as much as you self bragging of you wisdom kan't you see you been played like a fool that was lead chasing around endlessly as we tied a hot dog on a stick and keep it in front of you and off you went chasing a GHOST(Mr Kant)..Silly Mr Ian maybe you have not notice but Mr Kant has only posted a few Blogs and forum members have voted him a total of 91 votes ,seems Mr Ian your not as liked as you may of thought especially after lowing your self even lower and posting your filthy lies and bias hate (OBESSION) of Mr Kant.

But deep inside "we" beleive you now learned too respect and learn to shut your flapping Liar Mouth when it comes too Mr Kant.

We also know you always must get you last 2 cents in but we also know you will never admitt it but we foregive you and your filthy Liar Mouth.
For months we pleaded with you to Hush when it came to Mr Kant and your Obession of him,but you could not do so ,so we had no choice but too show all in forum how hateful you really are.

Your foregiven and also became a bore to us so spit out your last 2 cents worth and stay the hell away of Mr Kant and hiz posting and as promised months ago "we" will do the same..

Mr Ian Just for the record...think hard..Later Gator.
Silly fool you been played for a long time,you also been chatting with Team Kant longer than you think Mr Ian..

as we giggle...

Have a Great Day Mr Ian

funny Mr Ian you lived in Thailand with bars on your doors and windows...your a freak wimp and coward.Sad the many others you ran off these forums with your Bias Hate but Mr Kant stayed and smacked back and you lost control and became OBESSED.....

As we pleaded Mr Ian Hush when it comes to Mr Kant

Later Gator
from Mekong and gang
comment 4
wch date : 02/07/2009 time : 05.35

Honestly speaking, I have 'intentionally' avoided this article, it may be regarded as ' suppression of speech freedom, planned' to many un-Thai people including this author.

To me that know too well the mental condition of common Thai, it is merely for personal gain. Here the man who made complaint.

He needs 'Famousness' in public to secure springboard to profiteer by it, such as new commercial venture or political ticket.

They do like this and,
The case will be unexpectedly turned down in the most FAST MODE in the case LM.

Let me bet on this.
comment 3
Ian date : 02/07/2009 time : 04.00
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

ND, I firmly hope that this complaint will be thrown out and would hope that the law punishes frivolous accusers.
What really worries me though is the way the public appear to dangerously support this complaint.
comment 2
Al date : 02/07/2009 time : 03.25
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/albert

Who made this law and who is influencing its usage?

When will it be seen that there are changes needed? Changes without GE? - Good night........
comment 1
notdisappointed date : 02/07/2009 time : 02.58

Ian, this has to be the worst application of the LM law that I've ever seen. The complaint should never have been filed at all.

BUt it's a frivolous complaint not yet accepted by the courts. Let's wait and see how it is considered and whether it is accepted by the court or not.
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