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Thursday , July 10 , 2008
The diagnosis is right but the prescription is suspect
Posted by Yoon , Reader : 461 , 05:56:49  
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The controversial idea has been variously attacked as being "elitist" or "regressive" or even "treacherous". But the "New Politics" concept put forward by the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) is perhaps nothing more than a red herring to distract public attention from the politics as usual being employed by the ruling party headed by Samak Sundaravej.

Perhaps the promulgation of the New Politics manifesto is the PAD's tactical move to keep its seven-week rally alive. If the protest is to be sustained, a new purpose has to be found. The original objective of the protest to rid the country of "Thaksinmonics" and oust the Samak government is getting stale. Even if those two aims were achievable in the short run, the PAD's leadership is apparently searching for a "visionary solution" of which they can play a part - and a crucial part at that.        

The protest leaders must have come to the conclusion, in one of their long-term-plan brainstorming sessions, that even if they can pressure the Samak government out of office, the new administration would still be under the influence of the People Power Party. And if a new election is to be held, Thaksin and his group would make it back, perhaps even in greater number.

That, to the PAD leaders, is the curse of electoral democracy, money and dark influences. Another Cabinet reshuffle or another government under the current set-up, or a new election, would only perpetuate the ongoing vicious cycle.

An "alternative brand of democratic politics" must be found, they argue, so that true participatory democracy can take place. Elections don't provide all the answers because, in the words of Chamlong Srimuang, one of the PAD's chiefs: "Parliament has not been able to solve the country's problems at all."

The PAD's New Politics calls for the majority of the people's representatives in the House to be "selected" from all groups in society. Elected MPs would still be there, but would form a smaller percentage.

Sondhi Limthonkul, the other PAD core leader, proposed a 70:30 ratio between selected representatives and elected MPs. But when the suggestion came under severe attack, he took a step back.

"The ratio isn't important. It could be 70:30 or 60:40. But the critical idea is for the country to get a system which is not dominated, controlled and influenced by all those corrupt politicians who are good only at buying votes in order to gain power and rob the country," he said.

That such an idea is highly controversial should not come as a surprise. The status quo suddenly feels shaken - not because the proposal will stand a good chance of winning general public approval - but because the rhetoric will further erode the public's faith in the current electoral system.

Academics have been quick to point out that it would be a "step backwards". Career politicians, especially those within the government, immediately branded the concept as "dangerous" and even "an act of treason".

In fact, a government spokesman went so far as to suggest that a charge will be lodged with police to have the PAD's core members arrested for subverting the democratic principles of the constitution.

For all practical purposes, the New Politics theory will be a non-starter from the outset. 

For one thing, to put selection of people's representatives over election of MPs will inevitably dampen any chance of the suggestion being raised in most public forums.

The suspicion that the PAD's "hidden agenda" includes propelling itself into a powerful position in the new scheme of things would render the concept stillborn.

What's worse, when one of PAD's leaders said that under the new formula the military establishment would be accorded "special status" by which it could seize power under certain "critically important conditions", he was inadvertently nipping the plan in the bud.

But the exercise won't be totally futile. By floating the New Politics idea, the PAD's leadership is stimulating the public into seriously looking at the prevailing political system - which is plagued with malaise.

The controversial blueprint to embark on an era of  New Politics that will embrace all of society instead of  the "Old Politics" that caters only to political gangsters and electioneers will renew the badly-needed debate on political reform instead of paying lip service to improvement of the political scene.

The PAD's diagnosis of the country's political ailments is on the spot. But its proposed prescription is suspect.

But not all hope is lost. If this contentious blueprint serves to jump-start a debate on a roadmap for the country's  renewed political journey - in the right direction- the protestors will have done a great service to the nation.


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comment 9
wch date : 12/07/2008 time : 11.00

Plaadip,
Thanks.
1907 French-drawn demarcation is the point of collision between Kampuchea and Thailand.
This line is on the waist of the whole mountain that has open praire toward the Moon river basin.
Let's say, if Kampuchean install long range artillery, they can bombard further 20 km in radius without a natural obstable.
This can not be possible.

The international managing committe to be formed will play a pivotal role to water down the hot blood of two neighbors.
As known, USA, China and Japan are good combination, and EU or France may be another.
Inclusive of Kampuchea and Thailand, makes 6 nations. This committee must be used as well to keep peace and security on Kampuchea and Thailand.
I saw an news article " Before UN make any resolution, US invaded Iraq. Thailand must take special action on the castle".
This is a statement of a law professor of Thammasat University, so called, an intelligentie of modern Thailand.
comment 8
Plaadip date : 11/07/2008 time : 17.41

wch, this is the AKP's site carring the article

http://www.camnet.com.kh/akp/english_news.htm

Plaadip
comment 7
wch date : 11/07/2008 time : 11.04

Plaadip,
Interesting in your information of planting the border marks. I wrote in this regard too.

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/ThaiTalk/2008/07/05/entry-1
comment 6
Plaadip date : 10/07/2008 time : 18.51

Let me put a rather long quoation from AKP. AKP is the official news agency of Cambodia.

If manager wrote the article based on this, it is not so clear if the coutries have some tacit agreement or not, so it may be a kind of exagerataion. Or I heard wrong what PAD anchorman said on the stage. If that is the case, I would approgize it. But anyway, the following article is worth to read.

The quote fallows;
(Is full quotations prohibited this site? If that is the case, please delete it.)

AKP Phnom Penh, July 9, 2008 --

“The official listing of Preah Vihear Temple as a World Heritage Site is a success for the royal government,” Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Hor Namhong said Tuesday during a news conference in Phnom Penh.

He further reiterated that this listing did not affect Cambodia-Thailand border. “Cambodia and Thailand do not lose any centimeter of their land,” underlined the Cambodian deputy prime minister.

Concerning the border issue, he explained, Cambodia has negotiated with Laos and Vietnam over the border demarcation because the map made by France was not clear, but, he continued, with Thailand, we have already had the border line, then we only have to plant demarcation posts. “The border commissions of the two countries will plant the demarcation posts based on the 1904-1907 agreement between the two countries and the ruling of the International Court of Justice,” said Hor Namhong.
comment 5
Ian date : 10/07/2008 time : 18.02
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/anterian36

The simplest solution as Thailand is already devided is to have regional sub governments dealing with local policies and a State government dealing with national and international policies.
This is a proven system in both England and America.
comment 4
Plaadip date : 10/07/2008 time : 17.57

fait accompli, sorry. I promise I would never use french again.
comment 3
Plaadip date : 10/07/2008 time : 17.53

Did you hear the news that Hor Nam Hon said they have some verball agreement with Thai that they are going to use the 1907 demarcation line with France? Thai was reported by the Manager newspaper, so it's incredible? Apparently Cambodian government is trying it fait accomp. So PAD is right again? Anyway they would force this an issue which otherwise the MSM(at least TVs which became the main sorce of news for ORDINARY people) would treat it as one-minute straight news. Today's tone for The Foreign Minister's resignation is "Norpadon showed his spirit".

This should be PAD's role, not proposing an opsolete idea, easily argued down. I hope they re-examine the reason they get supports and stop before being called powermonger who can accept any undemocratic ideas for political win
comment 2
wch date : 10/07/2008 time : 09.28

Such a "new politics" of 70 selectoral with 30 electoral representation had been tested since the Roman era if not in ancient Tangshan civilization of the east Asia. That only resulted in the dictatorship and the beaucratic spoil system.

Modern democracy is very the effort to expand, as much as possible, the ' contact-space' between the citizens and their representatives that is apt to stay distant in-between (like PPP and their 12 m voters).

70 selectorals may represent special groups of common interest such as the military veterans, medicine professionals, academics, aristocrats, teachers, or the same natures.
In Thai society these groups are already enjoying priviliages that the conventional system provides with. In other hands they are in fact the target that the underpriviliaged strata of broad population want to attack. Thaksin used this general sentiment wisely. Thaksin himself is one of underpriviliaged class as the descentant of Hakkan migrants. (Upon acquired new airforce 1 plane, he first visited a town of Hokian province where his ancestor started out. This picture is a custom that a successful son comes back in 'Golden threaded Mandarin robe ' in Chinese old custom).

PAD's new politics is another side of 'Guardianship' democracy in a coin, having a side of, 'Royalist monarchism'. This sentiment can be sold well to the 'apolitical groups' of above said.

Rather than that, pan-national government may be more democratic as it assures the broader representation, or,

To elect the regional leader (of Isan, the north, the central, the east, the south) by popular election, and form a council of those leaders that take administrative governance would meet better to the general sentiment, while keeping present number of MP's in party-oriented general election.

The apolitic groups do not need to stand out in political frontline but can participate in the system of 'propotional party-list representation' that exists now.
comment 1
Piset date : 10/07/2008 time : 09.01
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/mahwatthai
Piset

Khun Yoon:

Here, I don't think even PAD's Nes Politics will resolve anything unless we have a group of able and honest leaders to lead a social, cultural and political reform of Thailand.

We already have laws to take care of all the law breaking and the corrupted elements of the society. However, it takes a good law enforcement to make th rule of laws effective. It also take good family education to make moral educatin effective. It takes some cultural re-education to make the family education and family responsibility more recognized. Unless and until the above is done, whatever reforms would soon turned into barking at the banana trees, namely, meaningless.
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