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Friday , June 27 , 2008

Blog Talk...Censure debate vote: 280-162: The winner is badly injured...

Posted by Yoon , Reader : 1117 , 13:30:21

Click to watch Suthichai Yoon's video comment on the outcome of the no-confidence debate in the House this morning....the 280-162 average vote in favour of the prime minister and seven other Cabinet members runs against the general feelings of the public....what's going to happen now?

Click to watch Suthichai Yoon's video comment on the outcome of the no-confidence debate in the House this morning....the 280-162 average vote in favour of the prime minister and seven other Cabinet members runs against the general feelings of the public....what's going to happen now?

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comment 89
GGrass date : 02/07/2008 time : 11.17
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DKO: If I'm not going to read them (those long comments), I might as well count the lines... Got to do something...

comment 88
DKO date : 02/07/2008 time : 11.04
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GGrass (C84)

Absolutely BRILLIANT!!

You must be a very sad person if you haven't better things to do than count my lines of waffle....
Hmmm.. Darn it, and I thought I had counted that I had written more lines

but I was half asleep with my own comments halfway through my count

comment 87
expresso date : 02/07/2008 time : 00.34

GG, you crack me up. A good referee. High 5.

comment 86
GGrass date : 01/07/2008 time : 16.48
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I guess one would have to compensate the lack of quality by increasing the quantity...

comment 85
Lalida date : 01/07/2008 time : 16.43
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So dalmasian,

where your "I can be very mean and very nasty if I choose to be one, and I don't give a shit!" and "all hell break loose"?

A whore is talking to you and you can't even beat a whore in words, what does it make you then.....?

comment 84
GGrass date : 01/07/2008 time : 16.27
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As a matter of fact, Lalida wins on this debate.

The longest comment was made by Lalida on C#78, at amazing 83 lines. However, this is disqualified because she quoted other blogger's comment, so naturally the comment got extra long.

However, even with the disqualification, Lalida still wins, because the second longest comment is C#78, at 54 lines, just ONE line longer than DKO's C#41, which was 53 lines.

comment 83
DKO date : 01/07/2008 time : 14.14
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GGrass C80

NO. I'd win without even trying

GGrass C81

comment 82
Manhunt date : 01/07/2008 time : 12.21

Hey guys, Yoon is beaming and laughing like nuts at your comments. His blog will catch fire fast and he might show up in a fire brigade!

Dalmasian - I salute much of your comments. Need I say more? Happy blogging sir!

GGrass - Please crown the Queen of Blogwhore!

comment 81
GGrass date : 01/07/2008 time : 10.48
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Amazing Lalida can piss, oops, I mean post as far as men.

comment 80
GGrass date : 01/07/2008 time : 10.24
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Are we doing a 'Who can post the longest comment' competition?

comment 79
DKO date : 01/07/2008 time : 09.40
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Ian (C64 and final paragraph of C66)

Sorry Ian but for once I feel you are being very hypocritical.

You, as you have admitted many times, were openly engaged in a long verbal "off subject" warfare in many blogs with several individuals including Lalida. It did not matter whether others were enjoying it or were bothered or embarrassed or board or not whilst we searched for the on subject comments

Just because you after some time ( quite a long time) found the light and decided to disengage does not IMHO give you the right to then attack others for doing what you did and in MY case a tiny fraction (and without any bitching).

I have neither abused nor been personally insulting but I have made my objections known to what I consider totally inappropriate comments (you think some were in any way acceptable?? I am certain you did not!

Where best to comment than where the original comments were made (even if off subject)? If you do not like the "off subject" in your blogs then delete the offensive "off topic" comments then they are not seen and not responded to. Of course know one has to read them (an over often used phrase to excuse)

Ian do you seriously suggest that your comment in C56

"A pox on all of you, this debate is no longer a logical debate, it has become a hysterical row. This behaviour is ruining just about every blog currently being written. My latest blog on sovereignty has become another battlefield in which several combatants are slugging it out, and totally irrelevant to the blog subject. I was tempted to delete them, but decided to leave them just to show how pathetic these blogs have become. "

was non abusive, uninvolved and on subject. I laughed it off the curse but it was not nice.

Sorry but you are as still guilty as the rest of us, be it much more pleasant and on less occasions than some. And you have responded to “off subject” replies on the off subject (as I do) because you believe in doing so out of politeness.

Tell me I am wrong or being unfair in my assessment Ian

As a Blogger I like you (I do not know you in person) but on occasions you do write as here if some of us are inferior children and have not grown up but daddy Ian is here to advise and guide us on a better path. That does not upset me but can be provocative to some.

When you suggest (be it in humorous irritation) “a Pox on all of you” actually means I respectfully ask you to look up Pox in Wikipedia. Of course you did not mean it seriously but – still not a nice phrase to use by any means. Not the type of phrases I ever use.

I will re-use a previously used phrase as I feel it appropriate and fair
“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”

Expresso C68. I do not speak for Ian but I have not suggested I am not involved and I stand by my views and comments.

Dave

comment 78
Lalida date : 01/07/2008 time : 04.21
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DALMASIAN,

YOU THINK I'M GOING TO LET YOU OFF SO EASY THIS TIME, KEEP DREAMING AND WATCH THIS....

It took me sometime to find these comments of yours and I’m going to prove how you lie through your teeth with question. If you have the guts, answer it. I’ve told you, I stayed up just for you…..

Seven’s Blog “So deep, oh, so deep. Stop pointing fingers”

C8 You wrote
The elder sister of one of my wife's best friend is a police officer. I do not know how high he is in the police force ranking, but he seems to be quite an important fellow.

Anyway, he and his wife lives in an upscale subdivision in the Ramkamhaeng area. His mansion is surrounded by high walls, and it is the size of a small city block. My rough guess is it has a land area of maybe at least 3 to 4 thousand square meters, if not more. By comparison, our house in the US is built on a 1,000 sq meter piece of land and it is quite big already, with over 400 sq. meters of living space under roof.

It is a very luxurious and very big mansion, with several late model Mercedes Benz parked inside. To say that Thai police officers are paid minimum wages would be the understatement of the century. Yes, their taxable wages may be very low by world standards, but they can afford to live like kings.

I wonder where they get their millions or billions from? Maybe they are all like Dogtor Chalerm, who always seem to win in the casino over the border! I understand that he is part owner of that casino, together with a group of politicians mafiosos in Thailand

SO YOU DID NOTHING BECAUSE HE’S A POLICE OFFICER OF THE ELDER SISTER OF YOUR WIFE’S BEST FRIEND. I THOUGHT YOU’RE A MAN OF JUSTIC, AREN’T YOU? YOU SHOUT ABUSIVELY TO EVERYONE JUST BECAUSE YOU STAND FOR JUSTICE, ISN’T THAT RIGHT? SO WHAT HOLD YOU BACK? YOU HAD ALL THE INFORMATION IN DETAILS AND YOU DID NOTHING AND SHOUT IN THIS WEB BLOG? IF THAT’S THE CASE, DO WE STILL HAVE TO LISTEN TO ALL THAT LIES YOU’RE PUTTING UP? YOU CLAIM YOU YOUSELF AND YOUR WIFE KNOW SO MANY IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN THAILAND, WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM, THEY ALL DIED? YOU EVEN MENTION AND MADE ACCUSATION ON, YOU CALLED “DOGTOR CHALERM”, DO YOU HAVE ANY PROVE OF IT OR OF ANY POLITICIANS YOU’RE REFERRING TO? IF YOU DO, WHY DIDN’T YOU EXPOSE THEM? WHERE HAS YOUR JUSTICE GONE, HE-MAN?

Ian’s Blog “Sovereignty”

C20 You wrote:

The listings are inaccurate, because whatever information they have of Thugsin’s wealth is incorrect. Thugsin has hidden much of his real wealth from most people. Even the Bank of Thailand did not know how much money he managed to smuggled out of the country during the last months and days of his second term as PM. This is because he travels in his own plane and his luggages are never subjected to Customs inspection. Did you know that Thugsin increased his wealth by at least 500% during his first term as PM alone? This was the most conservative estimate that the chairman of a well-known Thai commercial bank made when someone ask him the question.

Did you know that Thugsin took away two of the Royal Family’s private airplanes, sold them and bought a new one which he basically but illegally kept and used as his “own” 100% of the time while he was PM? Do you know that that Thugsin and his wife need to carry 20 to 30 very heavy luggages with them even when they are on very short trips? Do the editors of these publications know how much money these crooks have stashed away in Swiss banks, Singapore banks, Hong Kong banks and BVI banks?

AGAIN! YOU KNEW ALL THAT IN DETAILS, WHY IS IT NOT PASSED TO THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE YOU KNOW OR SEND THIS INFORMATION THAT ONLY YOU HAVE TO THE PAD, AEC OR ANY RELATED DEPARTMENT IN THAILAND THAT YOU SUPPORT? YOU LIST ALL THIS INFORMATION AND I SUPPOSE YOU HAVE PROVES AND EVIDENCE WHY NOT SENDS IT TO THE NATION AND LET THEM TAKE CREDIT OF IT AND PUT IT ON THE HEADLINES? THEY MIGHT EVEN PAY YOU FOR SUCH VALUEABLE INFORMATION. IS IT A FACT THAT YOU ARE LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH AND THAT’S WHY YOU CAN PRODUCE NOTHING? YOU KNOW WHAT DEFAMATION MEANS AND DO YOU KNOW YOU CAN BE PUT IN COURT FOR SUCH ACCUSATION? IF YOU THINK THEY CANNOT TRACE YOU, YOU ARE DREAMING….THEY CAN EVEN ARREST YOU ONCE YOU STEP INTO THAILAND.

HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY YOUR ACTION OF DOING NOTHING WHEN YOU KNOW ALL THIS SECRETS, BIG MAN? YOU START COMING OUT TO WRITE RUBBISH WHEN YOU SEE SUPPORTS AND RECENTLY IS SEVEN, MANHUNT AND EXPRESSO, ON OTHERDAYS YOU HIDE LIKE A RAT. I HAVE IGNORED YOUR COMMENTS MANY, MANY TIMES AND EVEN IF THIS TIME YOU DIDN’T TOOK MY ATTENTION,I WOULD HAVE IGNORED YOU AS WELL BUT YOU WANT TO TICKLE ME, YOU WANT TO TEST MY PATIENT, YOU WANT TO COME IN GANG, YOU WANT TO PLAY. FINE, LETS PLAY AND I’LL TURN YOU TO DUST; MAKE YOUR MOVE BIG MAN. I’LL PLAY WITH YOU TILL THE END TILL THE OTHER PART OF YOU DON’T WORK ANYMORE. YOU ASK FOR IT.

DON’T THREATEN ME WITH WORDS, DON’T THREATEN ANYONE WITH YOUR SO CALLED ‘ALL HELL BREAK LOOSE’. LET SEE HOW YOU BREAK IT, LET SEE WHAT KIND OF A MAN YOU ARE. DON’T KID ME OR KID YOURSELF…BIG MAN.

comment 77
Ian date : 01/07/2008 time : 02.46
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Dalmasian, Expresso, perhaps I'm getting old, perhaps I'm getting bored, perhaps I just have too many problems in my own village which the local authorities seem incapable of dealing with.
Whatever the reason I'm just pissed off with all this fighting going on, every single blog which has a political content and even a few without seems to have this battle going on.
Both of my last two blogs have turned into battlefields and once this happens the blog is dead to all normal purposes.
It seems that politics brings out the worse in everyone.
Now I am not in cahoots with anyone, Lalida is not my running partner nor DKO or anyone else. It is simply that at this moment and on these topics I happen to have similar views.
Note I do not share her views, they are my views, it just so happens that they seem to parallel her views.
You could just as well say Yoon and Piset work in partnership, again they have identical views. I cannot change my views just because you see them as supporting Lalida.
As to her behaviour at times, this I cannot support, but equally I see others behaving exactly the same way rather than ignoring her. To me it is no longer relevant as to who started it, rather it is who is keeping it going and even escalating it. Even newcomers have been dragged into the fight, whether they wished it or not.
You say leave these people alone, I wish I could, they disrupt my blogs and others that I wish to participate in. Even this current comment of mine is totally irrelevant to this blog.
Recently admin created a black hole, why can't everyone go and fight there?

So to summarise, I am not an important executive, nor do I mix in Hi-So society, nor do I have familiar relationships with politicians, generals and suchlike, I am just a moderately financially comfortable retired teacher and lecturer. But the one thing I do share with you all is a good education and a functioning brain, and yes I also have a sense of humour, howbeit a weird one. So talk to me by all means but be careful if you think you can talk down to me.

comment 76
Lalida date : 01/07/2008 time : 02.30
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Dalmasian,

Am I not going to have fun on this one, I’m going to break you into pieces. Watch me…

I chosed not to respond to Lalida. I think she is just a spoiled brat looking for trouble everywhere and every which way she turns. Read my c6 in Seven's newest post and you will understand.

I read it and I gave you a comment, you choose not to respond to me cos you’re afraid you cannot respond to my question, you’re afraid to lose, you’re afraid of facts and you’re afraid of being prove as a liar to all that you wrote.

I do not wish to respond to any of her blogs because she wields her magic wand that can banish anyone to oblivion as she pleases. That is a very serious insult as far as I am concerned. No one has ever done such thing to me even as I made a good and relevant comment. I repeat, no one!

Well, you know why? Cos no one wants to decent to your level with, insulting accusations, calling names, defamation without facts, prove. ME! I don’t mind, I’m nobody anyway, I can be at any level. I’m here on your tail to chase you as you run like as you call yourself.

Remember Phantom? Do you know who he is? Why did he disappear? I made him disappear. Use your brain. I could have had her banned for good during that fight, but I, as always, have a soft spot in my heart and did not want to pursue it further at that time. I regret my decision now.

Do you know how to spell S.H.A.M.E? Seems to me you don't. Why didn’t you HE-MAN? Don’t talk, DO… Soft spot in your heart, OMG you make me cry, really you do. Let me give you a piece of advice, you don’t have to regret, try again with your HE-MAN power.

Yes, even an a$$hole CEO of the worst kind who moonlights as a shoeshiner for The Nation have a heart, sometimes! But I can be very mean and very nasty if I choose to be one, and I don't give a shit!

OH Yeah! Prove it…I’m right here. Prove to me you’re a man, prove to me of what you say you are. Be nasty, throw all your nasty words at me, 4 letter, 5 letter even the new word you put up in the other Blog. Come Baby, come…..

Yes, an A$$HOLE as somebody here called me the other day. The response was swift, immediate, impolite and not forgiving! That is not my usual behavior, or i would never make it to become CEO of a business unit of a listed multinational corporation in London and Singapore that controls more assets and wealth than the four richest men in Thailand combined. A corporation with annual revenues of US$20 to $30 Billions. Think about it, my dear ex-teacher.

You’er Bragging? let’s see some prove, with your behavior and language you put up, you’re fit to be a CEO or does CEO have different meaning, let me think about it and see if I can get it right. BTW, you want to know the truth? I’m the granddaughter of Li Ka Shing in Hong Kong and with that money I have, I've got nothing to do but coming after you.

As Jack Welch of GE used to say, control your destiny or someone else will. I would like to add this to that. Have a conviction and stick to it. Take your stand and stick to it. No wishy washy thinking. No shades of greys.

Have you learned all that yet?

George Bush said if you are not with us you are against us. How nice and how fitting that statement is. George Bush is a "Big Man" and he has conviction. He makes decisions whenever the situation calls for it. He is not wishy-washy as some people are here in this Weblog.

So, you’re not….that’s why I call you He-Man…ha ha ha So stand up like a man or you want to tell me only half of you is working, you sure did a lot of thinking with half of your brain.

You know what? I stayed up just for you...pity me please...

comment 75
Dalmasian date : 01/07/2008 time : 01.28
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Hello Ian,

I chosed not to respond to Lalida. I think she is just a spoiled brat looking for trouble everywhere and every which way she turns. Read my c6 in Seven's newest post and you will understand.

I do not wish to respond to any of her blogs because she wields her magic wand that can banish anyone to oblivion as she pleases. That is a very serious insult as far as I am concerned. No one has ever done such thing to me even as I made a good and relevant comment. I repeat, no one!

Remember Phantom? Do you know who he is? Why did he disappear? I made him disappear. Use your brain. I could have had her banned for good during that fight, but I, as always, have a soft spot in my heart and did not want to pursue it further at that time. I regret my decision now.

Yes, even an a$$hole CEO of the worst kind who moonlights as a shoeshiner for The Nation have a heart, sometimes! But I can be very mean and very nasty if I choose to be one, and I don't give a shit!

Yes, an A$$HOLE as somebody here called me the other day. The response was swift, immediate, impolite and not forgiving! That is not my usual behavior, or i would never make it to become CEO of a business unit of a listed multinational corporation in London and Singapore that controls more assets and wealth than the four richest men in Thailand combined. A corporation with annual revenues of US$20 to $30 Billions. Think about it, my dear ex-teacher.

As Jack Welch of GE used to say, control your destiny or someone else will. I would like to add this to that. Have a conviction and stick to it. Take your stand and stick to it. No wishy washy thinking. No shades of greys.

George Bush said if you are not with us you are against us. How nice and how fitting that statement is. George Bush is a "Big Man" and he has conviction. He makes decisions whenever the situation calls for it. He is not wishy-washy as some people are here in this Weblog.

One must draw a line in the sand if one has a conviction. Wishy-washy thinking does not stand a chance in the world of business or politics. We take risks day in and day out. We take risks making decisions on a daily basis. We cannot be wishy-washy if we want to do a good job and make good decisions. Have a conviction and run with it. Wrong decisions can cost a lot of money, my friend.

I believe you are a smart person. You should understand what i mean, but think about it and have a nice evening.

-- Dalmasian

comment 74
expresso date : 30/06/2008 time : 23.26

Lalida,

Look at yourself. You have 2 complaining blogs to the admin that have made the active list.

You then set up a blog exclusively on Dalmatian to vent your anger.

Know thyself!

comment 73
expresso date : 30/06/2008 time : 23.19

correction:

You can't manipulate people like me. I have dealt with people in different strata in Thailand.

comment 72
expresso date : 30/06/2008 time : 23.17

It was your manipulation for some innocent phonetic translation of a Chinese motto that I translated.

You are manipulative! But you can manipulate people like me. I've been in Thailand too long!

comment 71
expresso date : 30/06/2008 time : 23.15

Lalida,

Whose everybody?

Ask some normally accepted respectable bloggers like Tom Fin and Max. Did I use 4-letter words.

Don't try to build facts from thin air!

comment 70
Lalida date : 30/06/2008 time : 23.05
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BTW,

Try using you low level behavior of non stop 4 letter word as you do before and see what happens or if you really don't know why you were banned.

comment 69
Lalida date : 30/06/2008 time : 22.27
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Expresso,

Do I need to complain about you to have you Ban "Easy". Everyone in this Blogsite knows your behavior, need to say more. If you haven't got the guts to face reality than hide as do before, don't blame others of having you ban....

FYI, if I do have the power to have any Bloggers ban, I wouldn't have been banned myself. Get some sense into your brain or are you too drunk to understand anything.....

comment 68
expresso date : 30/06/2008 time : 22.11

Ian,

Seriously, do you honestly call yourself and DKO been leaving other people to quarrel by themselves?

comment 67
expresso date : 30/06/2008 time : 22.06

Ian, where have all your humor gone? Are you afraid someone might pound on you for misinterpreting the nuances?

Ian, I know you are 72. And I want you to grow up more.

Or do you want me to call you an old man?

I am fully aware of the case between Dalmatian and Lalida. Dalmatian has always been anti-Thaksin and pro-PAD. Lalida jumped on him ridiculing what he is - a farang with a Thai wife. That shouldn't be a concern, should it? When Dalmatian stated clearly that he did not want to converse with her, she kept attacking Dalmatian for not man enough to face her. That's how it started.

If anybody wants to fight, could you just leave them alone instead of being a referee?

Btw, I am the former Easy. Lalida boasted she might know who I am from my writing style

She only had a hunch after I mentioned HK and exhibited than I knew the Chinese language.

Did you see any reason that I was banned without even a warning? Yup, you guess it, Lalida made complaints on me!

comment 66
Ian date : 30/06/2008 time : 21.18
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Expresso, "Grow up and be matured! " I wish, it would be nice to be young and immature again

If you expect to needle me with stupid comments you need to try harder matey;-)

As to Dalmasian and Lalida, it started way back, same with GG. Joining in on one side or the other just escalates things. I think to be a blogger one needs to be an extrovert and opinionated, both are characteristics that can lead to confrontations.
If other bloggers ignore the tantrums and keep out of it they eventually die a death. However, some bloggers, perhaps you are one, seem to like to stir things up and keep the pot boiling.

comment 65
expresso date : 30/06/2008 time : 20.57

Ian,

I seriously think you are being unfair. You had a run with Lalida. She then set up blogs to attack you. You then reciprocated. You know they do more harms than good. Beside, Lalida likes to delete comments even when people posted comments relevant to the topic. For example, in her blog "25bht..." GG posted, "You should blame your husband for buying the Bangkok Post. She deleted it and called him name and said GG was under her shoes. Where are you righteous referees?

Lalida just started the same damn thing again against Dalmatian. Why then do you seem to justify her action to appear like she has good etiquette?

Grow up and be matured!

comment 64
Ian date : 30/06/2008 time : 16.40
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Dave, there is a thing called etiquette, if I write a blog I expect people to try to stay on topic and not indulge in warfare with others. At the time when Lalida and I were going hammer and tongs, we realised this and each wrote blogs specifically aimed at the other. Lalida has started to do this, she has written a blog aimed at Dalmasian but I don't think he has responded.
There is no harm in people slagging each other off just don't do it in other people's blogs.

comment 63
Lalida date : 30/06/2008 time : 15.20
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C62 DKO,

KHA...no dispute...

comment 62
DKO date : 30/06/2008 time : 10.21
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Sorry Lalida, I dispute your comment that C6 was the end of sensible debate.

I at first ignored the snide comments until I felt they got out of hand. If you care to look at C24 you will see I was very much on subject whilst some others around that comment had already started to degenerate already.

Ian Ha Ha Ha and may all you poxes be little ones

Seriously, in essence I very much agree with what you have said. However, I sometimes need to make a stand and be counted for the values I believe in and I did here in the end (whether other agree with my views or not).

Ian, I hope you, at least, understand, even if you do not agree that I should have done so.

comment 61
GGrass date : 30/06/2008 time : 10.13
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

There's nothing scarier than a biatch with freedom of speech...

comment 60
DKO date : 30/06/2008 time : 10.07
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Dalmasian C49
"...The lesson is there are times when you have to be polite and there are times when you have to be firm and assertive...

Our styles differ greatly on how to be firm and assertive.

I 100% agree with you comment above, but I do not feel "firm and assertive" equates to bitchy snide and spiteful personal attacks upon another (even if in retaliation or perceived retaliation).

I like to think I am a better person than that.
If not reacting in the way you support makes me seem weak to others SO BE IT. I know differently.

It is often takes a stronger person NOT TO REACT and retaliate, than it does for "eye for an eye" retaliation.

Speaking for myself I personally do not wish to sink to levels I think unacceptable and that some others appear to be happy to go to.

I feel I am intelligent and articulate enough to make myself understood and address attackers (even abusive if necessary without using similar methods.

Dave

comment 59
Ian date : 29/06/2008 time : 21.51
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I will say this to all of you, previous comments in other blogs show quite clearly that you can all think and comment intelligently and constructively.
Put you together and you start behaving like children, can't you all call a truce and debate like adults. Forget who started it, it has become a vendetta where all have forgotten the original reason.
How can anyone criticise the behavior of members of parliament when you are behaving exactly the same.
I am not innocent, I have had major rows with Greg, PJ, Lalida, GG and Earlsy, but I move on, is it impossible for you to do the same?

comment 58
Lalida date : 29/06/2008 time : 21.13
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Oui..Big man,

where's your "all hell will break loose"? I'm still waiting. I thought you meant it.....or you're just bluffing...

comment 57
Lalida date : 29/06/2008 time : 19.55
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Ian,

Did you see a logical or a sensible debate over the issue after C6? Some idiotic Bloggers are more interested in personal attacks than actually debate on an issue. You don't have to name anyone, I will name it, it refer as to the "Rat" manhunt, where is he now? He's only interested in stirring and flame up fights, after that he hides. Have you once heard anything senseible from this thing?

comment 56
Ian date : 29/06/2008 time : 19.41
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A pox on all of you, this debate is no longer a logical debate, it has become a hysterical row. This behaviour is ruining just about every blog currently being written. My latest blog on sovereignty has become another battlefield in which several combatants are slugging it out, and totally irrelevant to the blog subject. I was tempted to delete them, but decided to leave them just to show how pathetic these blogs have become.

comment 55
Lalida date : 29/06/2008 time : 17.58
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Macca,

The first 3 comment aims at an issue of a political reporter who are unable to be "Nuetural" in his work if you care to understand.

comment 54
macca date : 29/06/2008 time : 17.26

what a fun read this blog is....seems like the aggression started with the first three comments.....how could anyone argue any support for the unrepresenative swill that are in the cabinet...to Yoon and Piset...keep it up boys

comment 53
Lalida date : 29/06/2008 time : 16.38
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/Real

Woo...dalmatian, so you're now in Thailand on a tourist visa to join the Pad? After all you do have some guts left, my mistake, my mistake.....

comment 52
Lalida date : 29/06/2008 time : 16.24
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/Real

Note Big man, This Blog is on the front page and let's see what you can show everyone, the viewers at this moment 416 to your liking. Show us the mandom you've got.

comment 51
Lalida date : 29/06/2008 time : 16.22
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/Real

Dalmatian,

You wrote "I have my principles", please do go through the new Blog just for you and see where's your principle is?

"all hell will break loose and I mean it!".

Let see what you've got, big man....

comment 50
Piset date : 29/06/2008 time : 16.12
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/mahwatthai
Piset

To all:

Permit me to clarify this:

What I would delete are the writings that are irrelevant to the subject at hand for that specific topic or the writings that focus on pesonal attacks.
I would delete all message that uses too much profanities.

What I would honor, accept, respect and never delete are the relevant messages addressing the topic of discussion, no matter which side it support, for or against, to any degree.

By doing so, I hope that we will have a unique subject to discuss for each blog instead of falling back into the same dirty mud slinging on every topic.

comment 49
Dalmasian date : 29/06/2008 time : 16.02
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DKO,

I am sorry but I am not anyone and anyone is not me. I have my principles and it does not matter whether they coincide with yours or anyone else's. When someone offends me, he or she must take responsibility for that offense. I said all hell will break loose and I mean it! I can be very mean when and if I want to, but I can also be very gentle and polite when the situation warrants gentleness and politeness.

Sometimes gentleness and politeness equates to weakness. Just yesterday I made a scene at an AIS establishment and shouted at the manager for making it so hard for me, a customer, to pay for their services. I simply refused to be pushed around by these people like the typical Thai person.

I had to teach her how to be a manager, how to act like the owner of the business, how bad the economy is and how hard it is to acquire customers and keep them, and put customers convenience first. I told her if she does not like my atitude then ask one of her Singaprean managers to come talk to me. In the end she realized that she was not acting correctly and provided the services that I came for.

The lesson is there are times when you have to be polite and there are times when you have to be firm and assertive.

-- Dalmasian

comment 48
Dalmasian date : 29/06/2008 time : 15.48
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Moo!

-- Dalmasian

comment 47
DKO date : 29/06/2008 time : 15.47
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Dalmasian,

I congratulate your artistic skills. but it is sad that even when addressing me you felt the need to side swipe at your victim YET AGAIN.

I agree I do not think comments just because they may oppose should b deleted. However there is one here that should never have seen the light of day.

I personally do not go with the "eye for an eye" idea. Especially as I feel there are much more politer, more clever and intelligent ways to show up bad behaviour or unreasonable attacks than sinking to identical or worse levels.

If everybody went the eye for an eye approach with added ammunition the whole World would be at war.

When it come to "rights as a Blogger" may I ask you whether you think another Blogger has the right not to be referred to as a whore and asked how many men they have had between their legs and that they are filthy and contagious in a most foully worded way.

Please explain to me how that can be considered as not violating another Blogger's rights.

What the hell has anybodies personal life or business got to do with Blogs unless volunteered by the blogger them-self (certainly it is not for others to suggest, discuss or reveal).

Do I assume the same attitudes as Manhunt's C33 apply to the thousands of foreign males who still come and have come to Thailand for beautiful girls and to have cheap and plentiful no commitment sex - are these men any different may I ask.

But then I do not get personal or judge what people do in their private time but to call women whore when many men are only to happy to associate with them amazes me with the superior and patronising hypocrisy

What two consenting adults chose to do between themselves is their business and not for me or other to judge unless personally affected.

You yourself say you do not wish to speak or Blog with whores. May I ask if you are happy to speak and Blog with men who constantly use prostitutes.
If you are, that suggests not are you hypocrite but you are negatively passing judgement upon millions of Ladies in the trade all over the World.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

I thank you for your reply and honesty on this issue.
Dave

comment 46
Lalida date : 29/06/2008 time : 15.30
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Dalmatian,

To further emphazie your C43, do have a good look where your attacks lands, every single Bloggers in here that writes against the opposition, Pad. You go attack them, is that not a fact or would you like me to put up a Blog to list them out....? In fact, I just might do that....

comment 45
Lalida date : 29/06/2008 time : 15.17
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You ain't see no hell yet, trust me...

comment 44
Lalida date : 29/06/2008 time : 15.16
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Dalmatian,

You wrote "I have one policy that I follow here. I will not make the first attack on anyone. I will, however attack anyone who attack, upset or offend me in any way. All hell will break loose when that happens."

Does comment C1, C2, C3, C4 mentioning anything about you or concerns you at all?

Your comment 6

"Forget about the remarks here by L and Sulasno, two of Thugsin's paid lackeys. Their views are ALWAYS prjudiced and irresponsible for it is their job to spread false rumors and lies. Lies, lies and more lies everywhere. You can also forget about Ian's remarks. Somehow he has lost what little grey matter he ued to have in his little brain between his shuffling from the UK and Thailand or ice versa. As far as I am concerned he has been written off."

You start attcking all 3 out of no where, is it not a fact in Black and white? Does it not contradit to what you wrote in C43? You slap your own face right in front of everybody, are you not shame?

Then you continue with C16, C29, 36. Is it all not written by you? Now you threaten other Bloggers of deleting your comments! You're a laugh, a real laugh.

I have disagreement with so many including Piset, but never will use language such as your against each other, why only you and that rat? Think with what you've got left in your brain....joker..

comment 43
Dalmasian date : 29/06/2008 time : 14.47
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DKO (Comment 39)

Don't worry about the cow. I designed it myself the other day, intending to publish it when the bull make another remark here.

I have one policy that I follow here. I will not make the first attack on anyone. I will, however attack anyone who attack, upset or offend me in any way. All hell will break loose when that happens.

Anyone who delete my comments in their blog is automatically my enemy. I take that as a big offense, a big disrespect for my rights as a blogger. I do not take that lightly. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

Keep that in mind.

-- Dalmasian

comment 42
Piset date : 29/06/2008 time : 12.17
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Piset

DKO:

Please accept my full understanding of how you felt about those abusive blog writings.

If Thailand is a land that is rule by rules and regulations, then it would have kept its position far ahead of Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore it had 50 years ago. I suppose the Web Editor hee have alraedy taken your comments into consideration and should be thinking about this at this moment. I agree that the attack on Lalida has gone too far and too personal, although, as you might know, I have not been in good term with this lady on this blog on most of the topics. However, to the opponents in this case, what you have witnessed was just a development from the past. You will also notice that those attackers you mentioned did make good contributions in other blogs and would engage in this kind of war of words only agains their old, long time rivals.

I am glad not to be part of that. For my blog articles, I have maintained a policy of deleting personal attack and irrelevant messages, to the level that have actually antagonized quite a few people.

As Stephen R. Covey said, we could only affect any changes from our own "Circle of Influence."

comment 41
DKO date : 29/06/2008 time : 09.14
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Fair comment Piset but first you have to start reading to know what to ignore.

Some of the same writers make valuable and interesting commentary on many Blogs so one cannot just ignore certain persons comments.

Additionally silence of the majority to not support what they believe in allows the unsavoury minority room to spout their hatred and spite.

I hate conflict but I stand up to be counted when my values say I should, even if it brings me under snide and personal attack.

I have said what I think of the comments I think totally unacceptable but you will note I have NOT been abusive back and I have not sunk to name calling and foul hate dialogue.

This site supposedly has a Policy. I did not make that policy but when I joined I was asked to accept it. All I ask is the the Policy I accepted is enforced by those that wrote it OR they should change it to Personal vile attacks (whatever the motive, reason or history will be tolerated on this Site).

I do not know nor care about the history for such attacks but it is HISTORY and I assume the Web Admin have banned or warned those who went too far in the past so WHY must the majority of us endure continued flame wars and personal wars being still waged.

These people should stick to PMs if they wish to verbally assassinate each other.

People do not have to write such commentary when they are very much opposed to another's views. There are way just as effective to disagree and make one point in a civilised manner.

I know sometimes sensitivities are triggered and sometimes people react incorrectly BUT what is going on here is very deliberate and very nasty and the perpetrators are deliberately doing their very best to provoke a retaliation so they can spout more hate and poison.

Must be some very sad people out there (or bored) if this is what they wish to spend their time on for the World to see and read.

What we are witnessing in this Blog is nothing short of group bullying.

The victim may be sensitive, she may and often has retaliated, she has at times initiated beyond what is desirable herself but we all can see she has gone a long way in the last month or so to avoid and correct this, but at least she stands up and fights her OWN battles.

But her opponents wait for one to attack and then the others join in like cowards and bullies - Shame on them. If they must attack do so individually not obviously supporting each others spiteful rhetoric nor should they try to gain other Bloggers support for such hate mail and eliminate those who do not see life as they do.

an example C34

"When a blogbeetch enters any blogs, she brings along flies! So it is natural that smart bloggers start swatting all over

How about placing a candle here so that flies might leave? Good idea?

"

The writer is so proud of the comments a big grin icon has been added and 6 laughing icons

There is nothing clever or to be proud about and I doubt many are laughing as well EXCEPT the rest of the group of bullies and foul mouthers.

I am an independent individual who is allied to no one except my own morality and beliefs.

My belief is I cannot believe any DECENT person thinks C33 in particular and a few other comment are is in any way acceptable on this Blog Site.

comment 40
Piset date : 29/06/2008 time : 00.13
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Piset

DKO:

There is a good reason that I say nothing about those undesirable inputs that you mentioned, that is, I would generally simply skip all irrelevant messages and read only the meaningful messages. You might notice that, despite some of these trying to involve my name in their own writings, I ignored them.

Be selective, is the only way to make any sense of of this, under the circumstances.

comment 39
DKO date : 28/06/2008 time : 22.14
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Dalmasion (C36).

I hope that visible TM (Trade Mark) on your cow cartoon is yours to legally use and for the Nation Web blog to allow within its site

comment 38
DKO date : 28/06/2008 time : 22.03
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Ian C32 (and one of the very few still on subject thankfully)

Well said and you are quite correct.
Dave

comment 37
DKO date : 28/06/2008 time : 21.59
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WEB ADMIN, what is going on???
I hope you are willing to reply because I GENUINELY do NOT understand your policy

C27, C29 and C34 are bad but I cannot believe that under your policy rules you have allowed C33 to be published.

Is there NOTHING that will offend you enough to delete and reprimand or ban these days.

C33 is WAY BEYOND your policy rules and way beyond ANY decent culture's levels of acceptability in decent or even half decent Blog sites or Forums.

Even the victims husband (not involved in this site is now being abused.

Web Admin, I know you have a difficult job and that you try to be tolerant and allow for different cultures attitudes but SURELY you realise by allowing such vile,hateful personal attacks (nothing to do with the blog - although that should be irrelevant) you are as good as condoning such actions and giving the "green light" for continued an similar ensuing comments by those being egged on by such unsavoury commentary.

My other shock is that those who like and even those who do not particularly like the attacked person are mostly remaining silent while all this vile abuse continues unabated.

No wonder the attacked person is firing back and more reservedly I note than her attackers (to her credit in view of the totally unacceptable level of abuse she is coming under.)

We have had the flame wars before and they thankfully have subsided now we are reading even worse levels of vile abuse trying to raise boring old wounds.

One of the perpetrators (C34) allies themself with "smart bloggers" YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING!!!!

I hope the truly Smart Bloggers speak up and say enough is enough (even if Web ADMIN feels unable or unwilling to do so).

comment 36
Dalmasian date : 28/06/2008 time : 21.10
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My oh my! Look who is acting like a bull here?

-- Dalmasian

comment 35
Lalida date : 28/06/2008 time : 16.23
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C34,

Is that all you have to say? Being abusive instead of using your brain to tackle an issue? You're pathetic. You can abuse me any way you want, you are only showing everyone how incompetent you are.

If you can not talk sense or cannot behave like a human being can, then don't expect to reply, talk to the mirror or

comment 34
Manhunt date : 28/06/2008 time : 15.55

When a blogbeetch enters any blogs, she brings along flies! So it is natural that smart bloggers start swatting all over

How about placing a candle here so that flies might leave? Good idea?

comment 33
Manhunt date : 28/06/2008 time : 15.45

Hello Lunatic Woman:

DiD I say 50 million ringgit or 50 million baht? You must be blind & illiterate as you never finished school

I am no coward but you're very filthy & contagious so I have to avoid yr name on doctor's advice

How many foreign trains have passed tru in between your legs? Lost count, too many? Dettol or Clorox should be in yr shopping list

Your mouth is so full of hatred, hopefully you need not reincarnate to be a hissing reptile. It is pouring now overhere, may the next lightning strike your lunatic lips too!

Where is your old fart now? Busy doing Jane Fonda's step-aerobics? But he steps names! Is he lunatic too like you? What a lovely matching couple!

Sawasdee!

comment 32
Ian date : 28/06/2008 time : 15.40
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I do not understand what is happening here, most of the writers are farangs so they are spectators. They all come from working democracies and so should be able to comment impartially on events in Thailand.
Instead they are behaving like a bunch of football hooligans, throwing verbal bricks and bottles at each other. They are saying the political equivalent of "shoot the ref", "that penalty goal should be disallowed", "give him a red card".

As farangs I think we should more usefully discuss issues rather than personalities. Nuclear power stations, dams and irrigation, flood prevention, farming practices, health and education. We used to discuss these issues but not anymore we are too busy fighting each other. Is this not exactly what is happening in parliament also? Nothing gets done because everyone is too busy fighting.

comment 31
Lalida date : 28/06/2008 time : 15.19
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C29,

What if Sulasno don't stay out, what you going to do? Kill yourself? Haven't your diarrgorea stop yet?

You know what, I can compromise with anyone in this Blog site except you and that fake call himself the 50million ringgit man. You 2 are the lowest of the low in human race, sneaking in and out like a rat and too chicken to face confrontation. The more abusive language you use, the more you are unable to confront debate over issues, does that sound logical in your so call Brain?

comment 30
Lalida date : 28/06/2008 time : 15.04
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C27 and C29,

How low can you people get by calling people names "Blog whore". it only shows how incompetent you are to confront with reasons, logic, facts. Especially C27, "Blog whore" what does it make u sneaking in and out? 50Million ringgit man?

If both of you have the guts than come have a debate with me on matters, issues not individual. We base of issues to make comments, you Axx Holx base on hatred on indivuals. Calling names only shows how worthless you are.

comment 29
Dalmasian date : 28/06/2008 time : 14.15
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Let me say tis once and only once. I have no inclination, desire, need, want, time or whatever to speak and/or blog with whores, Thai or otherwise. She knows who I mean. And I am asking this blok called Sulasno to stay out of this.

-- Dalmasian

comment 28
peacefulness date : 28/06/2008 time : 13.24
nationmultimedia.com

The Hune Cherd Government (nominee) under Samak survived the censure debate with flying colours, but Mor Mai Rub Yep (literally doctor will not accept to stitch---not to be cured).

comment 27
Manhunt date : 28/06/2008 time : 12.35

Hello Expresso - A million thanks for saving my breaths! I would not invest my time talking to an old fart's moron mistress or rather a blogwhore like her! Muahahaha!

comment 26
Piset date : 28/06/2008 time : 10.08
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Piset

Ian:

Quote from you:

"It seems unfortunate that most bloggers are unable to discuss politics without resorting to personal attacks, but then this seems to be the standards of politics in Thailand and I guess it is infectious."

and

" we support fair play and unbiased comments"

and the honor from you again,

"Something greatly lacking from people like yourself and Yoon and Piset. "

and my latest statement here:

"Yes, this kind of public information and voters education must go on and on until we can right the wrongs. "

How have you tied i my view hee with your quoted statements?

I will really appreciate your specific pointing out of:

1) My "blind" attack of the TRT/PPP government and Thaksin Shinnawatra. Where and how have I blinded myself? and on that save issue, how have you sum up your own views as being "unbiased" and "unemotional?"

It is really an honor for my name to be mentioned in so many blogs just for the sake of attacks without substantiation of the causes of attacks. Those were sufficient evidence to reveal the hopelessness of those attackers. However, I am a busy man and could not give my time and attention to respond to those less meaningful attacks. This, you could view as a recognition to yourself, by me, if that means anything to you. At least, we could still maintain some kind of rational, logical, factual, and worthy exchanges of views.

Traditionally, I have had difficulty arguing or debating with most of the Thai people who are not familiar with the principles of logic, consistency, rationality, materiality, or personal rational integrity.

comment 25
macca date : 28/06/2008 time : 08.32

To sulasno C16.....we could start with over 2000 extrajudicial killings during the so called war on drugs....many were innocent....civilised governments use the law courts to determine who gets punsihed

comment 24
DKO date : 28/06/2008 time : 08.19
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Irrespective of Yoon's views and my trying to avoid being involved in a slanging match between two opposing views I feel that occasional debates and votes of no confidence debates" when things do not seem to be going too well are a positive thing PROVIDED they are not called every two minutes by the opposition and they are a valuable tool in any Country with a truly democratic parliamentary system.

I do not think such debates should be called just for the sake of scoring points off a Government having problems and I do not think it is necessarily fundamentally important whether the opposition can expect to have a chance in winning.

What I feel IS important is that when there is widespread concern on many issues in general and that a Government is significantly under performing then such a debate in valuable to all side including the Government.

My reasons are simple: The Thai people see the Opposition doing their job of holding the Government to account where they should In Parliamentary debate
AND
the Government are given the chance to answer the criticism (and seen to do so) in Parliament to their peers and for the Thai people to hear.

Is this not a good thing? All main issues get a hearing and the Government gets to hear what the opposition party(s) think and the Government having won the vote (as was certain from the beginning on this occasion) has a chance to evaluate all input and its previous performance in Government (and in the debate) and hopefully move forward more effectively.

The Number one important thing is that with such a debate being permitted, is that the Government showed it was willing to have this open debate and answer and listen to its critics. A good thing for Democracy in my opinion.

Now the debate has passed and all views have been aired and the vote taken I would expect a responsible opposition to not call another unless things were to become substantially worse and it was their REASONABLE duty to do so

To those who do not agree with "no confidence debates" may I suggest that without transparency and debate in Parliament where such matter SHOULD be aired between MPs then we are at risk of perpetuating or starting other less desirable options of rallies, PAD, counter rallies and what the media wish to support and influence.

I think there would have been nothing more the PAD would have liked than to have been able to accuse the PPP of blocking the debate and adding that as another reason to attack them.

Just my two bahts worth on the subject

Dave

comment 23
Sulasno date : 28/06/2008 time : 07.51
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c17 and c18

I think the viewers are a immature lot; although we do share certain opinions, it doesn't mean that we have to agree on everything. I hereby declare that myself, Ian and Lilida are not related in any manner except as fellow bloggers.

comment 22
Sulasno date : 28/06/2008 time : 07.47
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/sulasno

c16

if you really know what is happening, then you should be posting something fair. Bashing Taksin is not going to help your case; as mentioned, I dun like Taksin but that's doesn't mean he's not guilty. Question is: What is Taksin guilty of? What's the crime that he committed?

comment 21
Sulasno date : 28/06/2008 time : 07.44
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/sulasno

c15

have you use your brains to think about the comments that we have made?

comment 20
wch date : 28/06/2008 time : 07.44

I was seriously confused at TV coverage of NBT this morning.

Two girls came out and amusingly talked,

"Who got the most score in the vote ?"
" He is the minister of justice !"
" Who was the next ? "

These girls !, ...............

I have a problem in this kingdom, the way how to suit my emotion to Thai people, like these girls.
I must learn how to enjoy in counting the score from 280 to 270. or,
better to count Potatoes out of potato sack, although it is holed leaking several balls, into toilet.

comment 19
Sulasno date : 28/06/2008 time : 07.43
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c12

becos most are blinded by the hatred of Taksin; refusing to accept the facts

comment 18
Lalida date : 28/06/2008 time : 04.21
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Expresso, If any of us can drive anyone away, you'll be the first one. PK, Khonkhannok are adults if they can be driven away just by a few comments of people diagreeing with them, then there's no point for them to blog in here. You call yourself a silent reader, in that case stay silent or you wish to be driven out by the power you mentioned we have and if our comments or Blogs does not interest you, you have the brain of not reading it, don't you? No one is pointing a gun at you to read anything you don't like. To tell you something else, I don't need a team to kick your butt, just me is enough. TRY ME......

Sulasno,

This piece of Sh1t is not Thai, Thais does not have manners such as his. His from somewhere in the Sh1t hole in Canada.

comment 17
Ian date : 28/06/2008 time : 03.17
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Expresso, I will express this comment to you rather than others simply because what was a political issue has degenerated to a personal issue. If you have been a silent observer for any length of time you will know that Lalida and Dalmasian have personal issues between them which are unrelated to politics.
It seems unfortunate that most bloggers are unable to discuss politics without resorting to personal attacks, but then this seems to be the standards of politics in Thailand and I guess it is infectious.
I do not regard myself as being part of a team with Sulasno and Lalida, having similar views in certain areas doing not make us a team.
I have my own opinions, if others agree then fine, if other like Dalmasian disagree to the point where they "write me off", that is their perogative, although it is hardly a statement capable of making me change my mind:-) It is not a reasoned rebuttal.
I am not a supporter of any political personage in Thailand, no one is 100% bad even Thaksin did some good. Everyone is trying to paint the picture in black and white, I reject this, I want to see all the shades of grey, Thailand has become polarised and so have the bloggers, this saddens me.
As for Catch22, he was in England up until yesterday, and like me lamenting the weather here , I assume after he recovers from his flight he will appear again.

comment 16
Dalmasian date : 28/06/2008 time : 01.21
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Sulasno,

If I am an asshole then you are a stinking JERK with no morals whatsoever! Do you know what you were writing or did Thugsin's spech writers do it for you?

You said you do not support Thugsin and yet 100% of your political blogs come our smelling like shit, all supporting the Evil One and his puppets the PPP thugs and imbecils in Government House. Sure, you are not telling me anything. When did I ask you to tell me? If I wanted to know I will be able to know, because I have my own connections as well, and these reach all the way to the Government House, mind you!

Get lost, JERK, before I plug your asshole with an oversized dildo!

-- Dalmasian

comment 15
expresso date : 28/06/2008 time : 00.51

These are my first entries to the blog, but I have been a silent reader for a long time. My personal opinion is that Lalida, you, and Sulasno have driven away many interesting bloggers here - pk, khonkhannok, both Thai. You know why?...Because the 3's Company remake is not that interesting! Or the 3 Musketeers?

comment 14
expresso date : 28/06/2008 time : 00.42

Ian,

From your c8: "Frankly anyone who argues with emotion rather than logic.... You are obviously too emotionally blinded...Something greatly lacking from people like yourself and Yoon and Piset."

I greatly resent your last statement, "Something greatly lacking from people like yourself and Yoon and Piset." You did not include Lalida in your list! Did you 'read' c7 from Lalida?

You have accused Piset as blind. What do you say to yourself?

comment 13
expresso date : 28/06/2008 time : 00.33

Ian,c11:

When you quoted Bush about 'us', shall I assume, in this blog, 'us', for you means: you, Lalida, and Sulasno? 'Them' means: Yoo, Piset, and Dalmatian?

Ian, I think you have forgotten the silent ones. Incidentally, I am one. Others are too nice to speak out, that's all! Where's Catch22?

comment 12
expresso date : 28/06/2008 time : 00.26

Sulasno,

Re:c9. If you are not telling us, why did you bother to raise those issues?

comment 11
Ian date : 27/06/2008 time : 22.44
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Sulasno, I think they apply the Bush principle, "you're either with us or against us".
It seems that an independant stance and attitude is not permissible to them.

comment 10
Sulasno date : 27/06/2008 time : 22.21
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/sulasno

Lalida and Ian, please explain to me;

why do the ASSHOLES here think that we support TAKSIN ?

PERSONALLY I DO NOT SUPPORT TAKSIN

comment 9
Sulasno date : 27/06/2008 time : 22.19
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comment 6
Dalmasian

You better take cover soon becos the first thing I would do it to kick your @$$; I got nothing to do with Taksin the square face. I like him as much as the anti-Taksin love him; But I am not a stupid expat who thinks like most stupid Thai; making comments without thinking; Use evidence to convince the rest who are not satisfied with the PAD, anti Taksin, etc; Use the Court to convict him not your A$$HOLE;

I can tell you many things that you as a stupid Thai dun know; but I will simply use a story to tell you; I dun know the name of the Court that is located at Empire's Building BUT I can tell you (off the record) what I know; I know the decision that will be made by the judges BUT I am not telling you;

Do you want to know what happened during a dinner with the Senior Managers and ex-owner of Shin Corp, who is Mr Taksin S. ? Do you know what was part of the conversation? I do, but I am not telling you becos you are an A$$HOLE !!!

Most of the Senior staff are from Singapore; do you want to know what they think after the Land transaction was completed? and NO, I will not tell you

comment 8
Ian date : 27/06/2008 time : 20.06
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Dalmasian, what makes you think it matters to me if you write me off? Frankly anyone who argues with emotion rather than logic is not a worthy opponent. You are obviously too emotionally blinded to understand that we do not support Thaksin, we support fair play and unbiased comments. Something greatly lacking from people like yourself and Yoon and Piset.

comment 7
Lalida date : 27/06/2008 time : 20.05
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/Real

The first thing Thai people will do is put a cork in your mouth on the other end.

Yes we're the "Thugsin's paid lackeys" and we're here to kick your butt with your loud mouth. When you have the guts to face a woman then you come out and talk, until then sit on that toilet of yours and contiune to do what you do best.

comment 6
Dalmasian date : 27/06/2008 time : 19.50
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/dalmasian

Khun Yoon is right on the money. Forget about the remarks here by L and Sulasno, two of Thugsin's paid lackeys. Their views are ALWAYS prjudiced and irresponsible for it is their job to spread false rumors and lies. Lies, lies and more lies everywhere. You can also forget about Ian's remarks. Somehow he has lost what little grey matter he ued to have in his little brain between his shuffling from the UK and Thailand or ice versa. As far as I am concerned he has been written off.

Samak and his stooges have been proven to be incompetent and useless in the week-long debates. If they were in private industry they would have been fired a long time ago. Imagine your company being "managed" by a group of unqualified and ncompetent nincompoops who are known to be puppets of a certain sinister individual (who was brazen enough last week or earlier to try to bribe Supreme Court judges using a snack box) and who have no other objectives than to loot and rob the company of it's assets and work for the benefit of their pupeteer? What would you have done if you were the owner.

In the case of the Thai govrnment and the country of Thailand, the "owner" are the Thai people. So I ask you, Thai people, what would you have done?

Give me an honest answer.

-- Dalmasian

comment 5
Piset date : 27/06/2008 time : 18.56
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Piset

Quite contrary. I view this Censure debate and voting result as a positive result for the people of Thailand.

Having revealed the concrete evidences of wrong doing and incompetencies of the prime ministers and 7 of his cabinet members in details, the vote of the government's MPs for them shows indefensibly of their disregards of the interests of the nation and the people.

I am sure, this alone, should have turned the table of the government parties in some constituencies.

I have to say congratulation to the democrats for bringing up such a death and gone blow on this prime minister and the 7 cabinets.

Yes, this kind of public information and voters eduation must go on and on until we can right the wrongs.

comment 4
Ian date : 27/06/2008 time : 17.25
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I think Lalida, Sulasno, you are both wrong and right. It is ok for a political reporter to have a bias, in fact it is normal, as long as it is declared. In yoon's case it is very clearly declared so we can accept the bias.
Equally I agree he is a sore loser:-)

comment 3
Sulasno date : 27/06/2008 time : 15.43
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I am with you on this

I think Yoon is a sore loser

comment 2
Lalida date : 27/06/2008 time : 14.16
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BTW Yoon, You know what a sad loser means? Let me give you an example.

"Abhisit" knowing he had lost the debate from the begining, I think it was yesterday that I read from your news page the he's going for impeachment against the foreign miniter.

Does that sound like a loser to you? This is the kind of people you support in your political views.

comment 1
Lalida date : 27/06/2008 time : 13.50
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Being a political journalist as you to make such comment in your VDO, do you not feel shame?

The "General Public" : which General Public you're referring to? You or the Media? How about setting up a voting system in this Web Site of yours and let us cast to confirm you comment in this Blog. Let us be the small tiny public to confirm you comment.

Journalist should reports facts, truth and not siding. Yoon, you can Ban me but I 101% felt that you are not fit to be a political journalist.

If people do not see this debate as a waste of Tax payers money and time as you do, then they are not fit to put one word of comment about politics. If you have read the poll that you people printed on your own news paper, more then 60% of the people feels this debate is too early. Are they they General Public you're talking about, YOON?

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