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Thursday , June 5 , 2008
The Puyai System is Disastrously Bad for Thailand
Posted by FelixQui , Reader : 337 , 09:21:40   | Category : Logic   Ethics   Epistemology  
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Some, including the Nation in a particularly weak editorial, have recently suggested that Thailand does not need democracy because it has an excellent and functioning puyai system. There is certainly a connection between democracy in Thailand and the traditional puyai system, and unhappily, it's supporters are right when they observe that the puyai system is an alternative to democracy in Thailand. In fact, it isn't just an alternative, it's a fatal obstacle to democracy in Thailand and, with one exception, is gravely harmful to the entire Thai nation.

Thailand's puyai system has been in operation for a long time. It's hallowed roots go back well before 1932, but we're only interested in the bit after Thailand began it's ever feeble steps toward constitutional democracy. For all of that time, the puyai system has been there, staunchly upheld as teh guiding light of Thai social, economic and political development. And after all that time, what are teh benefits that the puayi system has bequeathed to the Thai people?

1. Poor education. The education system continues to be a miserable failure, because instead of making changes that would lead to education and critical thinking, the puyai at the top make decisions out of ignorance that can NOT be corrected or even challenged by the more intelligent and better educated people below them. This is disastrously bad for almost all Thai people.

2. Ignorance. Communication and information technology is strictly controlled by the puyai to prevent the free spread communication and information, and the puyai decide, in their wisdom, to censor topics of real public concern, thereby enforcing ignorance. They then claim that the people's ignorance is a reason why the puyai are needed. This is a bare faced lie. The Thai electorate's ignorance is a direct result of the puyai's deliberate management of information and communication to keep the Thai people in a state of ignorance. This is disastrously bad for Thailand.

3. Political weakness and instability. If the puyai were so wonderful, how comes it that the country, after eighty years, has had quite so many constitutions? Why so very many coups? Why so very little political maturity? The results of 1. and 2. above are compounded by the puyai's reluctance, refusal, to accept the basic premises of democracy, and that inevitably creates strains that lead to instability. The puyai are responsible for the eternal mess that is Thai democracy, and that is disastrously bad for Thailand.

4. Absence of critical thinking. Inter-related with the above, in order to maintain their positions of unquestioned eminence in the social and political realms, the puyai have to instill habits of mindless acceptance of their often inane utterances because people will otherwise review them critically and realise that they are often stupid. The Ministry of Education is a good place to see examples of this. Recently, the puyai there have asserted that by more strictly controlling the hair of both male and female students that the quality of education in Thailand would be improved. The senior puyai who suggested this should have been laughed at loudly, but instead of ridiculing and critising such idiocy, the Nation and other media reported it as though it had a scrap of merit. The Ministry of Culture is also a wonderful source of ideas completely uncontaminated by critical thinking or intelligence. The process of actively discouraging critical thinking and its expression begins in primary school and continues through the awful Thai university system, so that you get graduates from such places as Chula. (supposedly "good"), who can not actually write (who have never written!) an essay that shows any critical thinking ability whatsoever. (I work with graduates of that and other "good" Thai universities - KMIT and Mahidol appear to be much stronger academically than Chula. and Th.) This inability to reason critically, and the suppression of any expression of such critical thinking, is needed by the puyai to protect their status as superior beings whose words should be hung upon, and it is disastrously bad for all sectors of the Thai nation.

5. Anti-democractic beliefs. The very idea that some people and their narrow opinions should count for more than those of everyone else is anti-democractic. It has led to the acquiescent acceptance of coups based on the false notion that the army generals know better what is best for Thailand. They do not. It leads to the notion that a tiny Bangkok elite must have power to run the affairs of the entire country because they know best what is best for everyone. They do not. It leads to the idea that a tiny Bangkok elite led by the likes of Chamlong should be able to tell the peasants who they should have voted for and oust a democratically elected government because they know better and their ideas count for more than the peasants. They do not.

6. The only thing going for the puyai system is that it is traditional. And only a populace kept in ignorance and not allowed to think could accept such a pathetic argument in favour of anything. Only an arrogant and self-serving elite would present such an argument to support their claims to continued respect.

I was thinking of 7, 8, 9 etc, but since endemic and systematic corruption, connection based incompetence, economic inequality, excessive state control, lack of human rights protection and the like are well known, I thought it safe to leave the causal connections of those things with the puyai system to readers.

It would be in Thailand's best interests, and very much in the interests of democracy in Thailand, to ditch the outworn and unwholesome puyai tradition as quickly as possible. Replace it with a tradtion of according respect where it is deserved and for ideas that are found to be sound after a thorough critical examination. Nor would it hurt to start encouraging free speech on matters of serious public concern to dispell the deep ignorance that is currently favoured. When we judge the puyai system on its record over the past eighty years, it has seriously failed Thailand and teh Thai people as proved by the very poor social and political development that the puyai have overseen over that long period. 


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comment 32
wch date : 10/06/2008 time : 12.21

Going back to article 1 of the text,

Education.

Look at an ordinary family in Thailand.
Hakan and Teochou descendants do well in school by thank to their parents' strong faith on the education, mainly in Bangkok and local cities.

I take an example of a family, in very ordinary Isan village. Most of parents are saying " Primary 6 years are enough". They dont have any faith on education. They dont know the education is the most efficient way to thwart the hard poverty.

If Thai leaders have failed, they have failed to plant the faith and the importance of education.
Now they know and they put it the compulsory system. Belated though, it is better than not doing.

Here in education, the real phuyai is the parents. They endless emphasize the filial piety but they failed to enable them to get power to it.

Crisis is this, the crisis of family value.
Thailand must build up good family value.
This is the most urgent issue.
wch
comment 31
wch date : 10/06/2008 time : 10.50

If BBC is involved by conspiry or by real implication, PPP will use this Jakrapob case, in order to dilute the ideology of PAD again by internationalizing and call denouncement on PAD, military and the monarchy institution.

That is the habit for the Thaksins to refer back to the outside world as if the world sides them.
This is wrong. When Surayudh government came in, the world power acknowledged it quickly by understanding Thaksins' policy topped pillage.

Today look at them, they threaten the people 'Investors shun away because of PAD, Tourists not come, etc etc' The truth is not supporting them.

Other investigation agency started on Jakrapob's corruption suspicion (contracting a program maker to NBT tv) and this will supercede him into long term jail. In this case, LM case will be secondary.

I think they will erase out BBC and take things internal.
comment 30
FelixQui date : 09/06/2008 time : 14.43
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wch,
On the whole, it would be better for Thailand for the BBC case to proceed through the courts, also Jakrapops's case. Both will atract a lot of well merited attention, and that might do much good.

You seeem not to want these cases to be prosecuted. Why is that?
comment 29
Ian date : 09/06/2008 time : 10.06
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wch, I doubt if the BBC wants to get involved, it is only a police Colonel who is dragging them in via Jonathan Head.
comment 28
wch date : 09/06/2008 time : 09.12

Felix,

I think many people think China and Vietnam are in process of democratization in view of their capitalistic economy practise.
They have not given up their political ideology, the socialistic communism.
To break it, such kind as bombarding the people's parliament building (USSR case) is needed. ie Revolution.

Thailand was clearly targetted by PRC China after US withrew their forces from Cambodia and Thailand in late 1970s. Vietnam was supported by USSR, Lao and Cambodia and Burma were under PRC control. PRC supplied weapon to Thai and Malaysian communists.
Thailand, by disseminating USA, negotiate PRC that Thailand will remain friendly alliance to PRC. In other hand, so called ping pong diplomacy was established between PRC and US.
PRC stopped supplying weapons.
(I think the Nation has the archieves about this event in English).

I believe the world, the UN want Thailand to play positive role in the Indochinese peninsular democratization and ASEAN admits this role well.
comment 27
wch date : 09/06/2008 time : 08.57

Ian,
I am glad that you understand me on this point
Don't be angry if I say something negative to you.
In fact, although you stay here for a time, I read you dont understand the politics of Thailand and you try to teach the unprepared 'students' in this Nation's blog. I warned you often, talking about LM law is unscrupulous without knowing it correctly.

Thai people know the problems of LM law very well for a long time. This issue was brought up during the charter writing assembly of Surayudh government. Finally they reached the idea of an independent law, - Internal Security Act.

This law shall handle the matter of national security and LM is reduced only to personal defamations of the monarchy institutions.
The institutions includes, the privy council and the councillors who hold their powers, of the regency and of the enthrone in an or two occassions (emergency).

Another dubious law enacted is the national emergency law that was prescribed in Thaksin time.

Three laws are contradicting one another and the military sector show the negative attitude to use two security and emergency laws.
Therefore Jakrapob case is expected to only the personal defamation in LM law, that is much lighter to him. However the opposite, the democrat initially thought Jakrapob is against the national security law, say simply the rebellion but later they withdrew it because if it is drawn surface, it can be used to suppress PAD.

Jakrapob will be criticized for a time with his deep remorse and apologies, then he will be freed.
If he tries to bring BBC into and try to make this case international, he will be heavily punished.
That is why I ask BBC to stay away.
comment 26
FelixQui date : 08/06/2008 time : 19.16
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wch,
No, the US and other fnuctioning democracies set the example and led to the success of diluting communism in Vietnam, also China, which is fast becoming less communist, more free and more liberal, and therefore more successful, than Thailand.
In case you haven't noticed, Thailand's record of treating immigrants from neighbouring countries is not something to draw attention to. How many Burmese were murdered by Thai people just recently? How many Burmese, Lao and others are currently locked up in official camps?

The Thai political system can not even deliver success to Thailand, how could it possibly deliver success, or act as a role model, to any other nation? It is not Thailand that Vietnam wants to emulate. It is not Thailand that Malaysia wants to copy. It is not Thailand that Cambodia is trying to replicate.

There is one thing that is half spot on in your last comment: "Thai military fought both against external communists who reject the monarchiac system, and the students who oppsed the military rule."
Who were the "external communists"? I thought they were local Thai communists, not imports.
The Thai army did indeed murder Thai students simply because they dared to express a different opinon. If you think that is acceptable (killing people because they disagree with you), there is something seriously wrong with your understanding of basic human rights.
comment 25
Ian date : 08/06/2008 time : 18.28
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wch, you say it is, " the home land security law.". Then call it that and stop pretending it is anything to do with respecting the king. As I said in my own blog, the king does not need a law to get respect, he gets it anyway.
comment 24
wch date : 08/06/2008 time : 10.48

Ian,
Somewhere and the last post of mine, I mentioned about the paradoxical division between leading 5 million vs peasantry 60 million, the typical demographic, political strata of Thai population.
This is the last hudle Thailand must overcome to realize the real democracy.

By this, Thailand has devopled their own, the most effective political system. Here, the importance of the armed force, say again, the royal military guardian is the key element to maintain the system.

I like to recall such Thai system how it worked in the volatile situation of post world war II, so called, in the Cold war era of the twilight zone of ideological war between liberal democracy and totalitarian communism that confronted seriously in this land.

"Domino theory" was coined from this Indochina peninsular and Thailand was just a duckling against unchallengeable pressure of communists from all direction.
Even USA gave up Thailand and left this kingdom and no one doubted Thailand was in the matter of time (1970s).

They defended them by all means of diplomacy, military force and internal purge and suppression.
Thai military fought both against external communists who reject the monarchiac system, and the students who oppsed the military rule.

And today, it is Thailand who blows back,

" Reverse-Domino theory" in this region.

It is Thailand who roles in the democratization of surrounding communist, socialist countries.
Lao, Cambodia are being dituted, Vietnam is on process. Thailand received 3 millions refuses from the communists neighbors and they settled them down here mostly, by will of the monarch.

Malaysia successfully removed communists in thank of Thai cooperation. Rather it is Thailand now, who suffers from the southern communist-turned, islamic separatists who were borne in Kelantan restive separatism.

Thai politcal system delivered the success.

Without this cultural understandings of Thai system and the monarch and military forces, it is unscrupulous to deal LM law from an angle.
It is the home land security law.
comment 23
Ian date : 07/06/2008 time : 16.21
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wch, do you not see by your very own account that not only are the people divided but also so are the military. This is a sad state of affairs, yet strangely you seem proud of it. You seem to say that it is part of the Thai culture to have military coups and deleted constitutions, nothing to worry about

A politician survives in Thailand not on merit but on how many brigades of military he has loyal to him, this is a singularly unique interpretation of democracy.
comment 22
FelixQui date : 07/06/2008 time : 13.42
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How can the armed forces be the "guardians of the system" when they have repeatedly destroyed the system for their own selfish benefit?
No one else has ever destroyed a Thai constitution, no internal or external enemy. Thai Constitutions are only destroyed by the Thai army!
comment 21
wch date : 07/06/2008 time : 11.22

Felix, 20

Kingdom of Thailand has its own proper political culture. Kingdom of Thailand was borned by way of unification of big or small 15 some ethnicities, including massive Hakan, earlier, and Taechow migrants later and sizeable continual influx from Indian subcontinent.
Through time, Thai people built up the faith and the trust of a powerful absolute monarchy that effectively ruled, the unruly mass of multiple ethnicities.

Some of western people have a fixture, that is, Thai monarchism must be downed to the same level of European ones, or at least, to the political significance of itself.
However such idea is rejected by the conventional institutions as well as general mass.
Here is the fundamental chasm to the understandings between outside and inside.

At this point, you may understand the exact status of armed force and their political role.
They are the guardians to the system.

In the past, the armed force came out to monopolize the whole power but failed.
2006 coup was not to take power but defuse the conflict between the morality troop, PAD and the planned LYNCH mobs of TRT or some cadres' conspiracy. (This part, many foreigners would not know. The forest department armed rangers, led by then minister of environment, were on move to invade to attack PAD on September 20 Wednesday 2006. Thaksin intentionally avoided this Bangkok situation and wasting time in Helsinki and London without specific work and was suspected he was waiting until the riot occur. Armed force didn't know this first but later got info and Gen Sonthi, then army cnc had no troop on hand and he joined with navy and airforce to suppress mechanical divisions, while he mobilized his unimpressive Kanchanaburi infantry division. So the real coup forces were merely with the naval marines and airforce gunship that successfully subdued the tank division, later the royal carvarly of Lop buri ran down to guard the chittlada palace).

All of such political system are clearly written in the constitution, in the pre-chapters that have never been changed in Thai constitutional monarchy.
I will not answer every points to you and hopely you will achieve good, correct understandings in Thai politics.
comment 20
FelixQui date : 06/06/2008 time : 13.20
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wch,
Is the Thai army right or wrong when it overthrows the Thai constitution against the wishes of the Thai people? In what way is that protecting the Thai people? Who is the external enemy the Thai army is acting against when it does that? Whose life or property is the army protecting when it abolishes the highest legal authority in the Thai nation? The constitution and government are both approved and appointed by the King, so what does that mean the army is doing when it acts to overthrow those democratic institutions against the wishes of the Thai people and the King who approves them?

In your last sentence you wrote: "if anyone vilotate the political ideology, the one shall be subject to the constitution." Does this mean you also feel that the army should be subject to the constitution and punished for the last coup?
comment 19
wch date : 06/06/2008 time : 12.15

Felix,

At this point, let me clear this first.

Some of people may prejudice the monarch, his privy councillors and armed forces are the political patronage. This is seriously wrong.

All of these three institutions are the official, formal institutions of whole sovereignty and they shall be obliged to funtion on their roles.
The monarch is the principal head representing the kingdom of Thailand, and the privy councillors are the advisory committee to the monarch and partly on a case, they are collectively responsible to perform a part of, on behalf of the monarch.
The military institution is the royal armed forces who are missioned with the role, first, the royal guardship, the guardians to the monarchiac political system and defence the royal subjects against intre external enemy that threatens the lives and properties of the royal subjects.
The intitutions are not the patron that needs the remuneration in return and if anyone vilotate the political ideology, the one shall be subject to the constitution.
comment 18
FelixQui date : 06/06/2008 time : 10.44
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wch (c. 17),
When you point examples of exactly how the professors and other Bangkok elite, the puyai, completely fail the rural Thai citizens of Isan, who are the majority of the Thai people, does that mean you agree with my main point that the puyai system has been and continues to be disastrously bad for Thailand?
comment 17
wch date : 06/06/2008 time : 10.20

Felix (13), Max (14).

The demographic strata of Thailand has two indifferent cultures. Say yet to have formed into an organic structure.
The controversial statement, "5 mln vs 60 mln" is to highlight the imbalanced or contending, bi-sectional structure of Thai politic entities.

Thai politicians and intelligentias have never attempted to look at this, so no tangible developmental solution has been proposed.
A Bangkok professor would travel Isan once in a life time, but barely once after his retirement (I met one in this deep Isan).

Isan, northern peasantry come out in highway to protect their interest, not using their own conventional political system, that is here, called, their patrons.
The patrons think the rice price matter is none of their business and the peasantry agree on this attitude.

The rural peasantry try to find their opponents from Bangkok and the whole Bangkok people, officials, students, military, traders, turn automatically to be their enemies.

There is NO political service providers on behalf of the rural people who need the very political issue to be immediately addressed,

RICE PRICE.

What Samaks are now doing is to patch the holed rice sack.
comment 16
Ian date : 05/06/2008 time : 15.58
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FunnyB, can I answer your question to Max this way? Do you know the saying, "When mother turns over we all turn over', the allusion being to children sharing a bed with mother.

If you prefer, when the boss says "jump" we all jump.

Replace mother or boss with puyai. It is the incalculated unthinking abedience to the puyai which is the problem.

If the puyai says jump, no one asks why?
comment 15
FunnyBrowny date : 05/06/2008 time : 14.20
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Max: And I assume you will enlighten us with your explanation on how the 'Patronage System' is affecting Thailand? (this emocon means 'Focusing. Or paying attention.)
comment 14
MaxHeadroom date : 05/06/2008 time : 13.59
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As you can see with wch - prejudice still looms large over the heads of many people in Isan and people like wch are just fueling stereotypes which make up most peoples opinion forming process when education and information and ethics are scarce.

This doesn't help to promote understanding among the different ethnic groups in our country nor does the lack of respect that is displayed on every verbal or written outing create a good basis for discussion.

wch is a good example for part of the Thai society which believes in a certain intellectual superiority above others and in this process becomes narrow minded, aggressive and discriminating.
comment 13
FelixQui date : 05/06/2008 time : 11.47
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wch (c. 11),
Altbough the points I raised were largely against the Bangkok, urban and educated puyai, I agree with your point about the harm done by the despotic patronage based puyai in much of rural Thailand.

I'm less sure that the "other 5 million educated people " are in fact showing any interest at all in "provid[ing] good guidance to make them [the rural masses] quickly into modern democratic citizens." After eighty years, they don't seem to have achieved very much, which must make us wonder about the quality of the guidance that has been offered to date.
I think the uneducated would do better to insist on being informed, to insist on being allowed to be informed, and on making up their own minds, which is an important part of what democracy is all about.
comment 12
FelixQui date : 05/06/2008 time : 11.34
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c8 & c7,
I'm not expecting "a campaign to promote unbridled discussions and critical thinking anytime soon" either. However, I do see a ray or two of light breaking through. As some of my recent comments make clear, I'm not entirely thrilled with all the PAD's current actions, aims and motives, but would say in their favour that they are at least encouraging the idea that it is right and proper for ordinary people on the street to loudly question at least some puyai rather then meekly accepting whatever is said.
The rejection by the Democracts as well as the govenment of the proposal by "respected commentator Prawase Wasi" (The Nation, June 4, at http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/page.news.php?clid=2&id=30074716 ) was also encouraging, as they not only disagreed with his suggestion, but gave reasons that were fairly sound, or at least the right sort of reasons, for rejecting Prawase's idea.
This might not be much, but, especially the former, might be a move in the right direction. As narcissus notes, change will have to be from the bottom up.
comment 11
wch date : 05/06/2008 time : 11.31

Felix,

The real problematic Phuyai system, in another word, the patronage system is built in Thai localities, not abround the monarchiac system.

I long wrote about this agenda and recently dealt it again in Jakrapob case.
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/ThaiTalk/2008/05/22/entry-3

I experienced the locality and its demoracy practise for a time of 10 years in deep rural Isan.

They are really backlagged, uneducated, very much, well tamed fief or peasants who hold blind loyalty to the masters, that I named Patrons.
They think the monarch is a divine power and they think they must be ruled unconditionally.
This is sad but the reality.
This strong 60million people must be educated into a fair conscious citizen who can choose between the right and the wrong.
Other 5 million educated people provide good guidance to make them quickly into modern democratic citizens.

Thai democracy is imperfect, need time, and in the while they will be 'USED' as a loophole for ill-intentioned politicians into stardom of central power, who want overnight quick wealth.
comment 10
FelixQui date : 05/06/2008 time : 11.01
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wch,
I notice you did not even attempt to rebut any of the points I raised against the puyai system.

You are right to note that I wrote my introduction in a deliberately provocative manner, but the main thesis is that the puyai system is disastrously bad for THailand, not the Nation's sad use of the traditional Thai puyai concept to support its attack on free speech.
I think your response shows that my introduction worked well to get the reader's attention.
comment 9
narcisuss date : 05/06/2008 time : 10.59
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I  come in peace :)

I have a question; Greg might be able to answer it.
Are kids and high school students taught any political science in school? And are there student bodies of any authority in the primary education institutions to encourage participation in decision making?
comment 8
narcisuss date : 05/06/2008 time : 10.51
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I  come in peace :)

c7, I agree with your observation.
I've said many times that Thailand doesn't need more coups, but a revolution of thought.
I'm pretty sure the government isn't going to launch a campaign to promote unbridled discussions and critical thinking anytime soon, so it has to be a bottom up movement.
comment 7
Ian date : 05/06/2008 time : 10.31
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Felix, the strength of the puyai system is that it is entrenched in the culture, to change it one needs to change the culture.
A good example is southern Italy and Corsica, both have a mafiosa/godfather type culture going back for many generations. A culture so strong that it survives in spite of constant attacks by the central government, indeed it often strikes back.

In Thailand the government itself is part of the puyai/mafiosa structure, so there are not even any attempts to dismantle it.

As the only way this system can change is by a major cultural change, one can understand why Thailand takes such a restrictive and censorious attitude to foreign influences. Why farangs have to plead the right to stay here each year of their life, why foreign food stores are resented, why foreign websites are banned. Western culture is dangerous to puyais, not least because they don't understand it.
comment 6
wch date : 05/06/2008 time : 10.19

Felix,
This is the wrong botton you skewed into a wrong hole.

"Some, including the Nation in a particularly weak editorial, have recently suggested that Thailand does not need democracy because it has an excellent and functioning puyai system.

You committed gravely false assertions.
"Puyai system can replace the democratic system,"
this assertion, on purpose, bring up two, conflicting ideas into the physical confrontation to choose the winner,

is the tricks of Marx and Lenin if not Mao.
and miserably Thaksin did this exactly and uneducated, Jakrapob was used as a mercenary.
Thaksin tried to escalate his personal corruption into the political conflict, that is not accepted by people.

And you are the victim of the falsehood.
" When things run well, it is my barami,
When things turn bad, it is the military barami".

comment 5
GGrass date : 05/06/2008 time : 10.07
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I was actually hoping you were writing as 'the People'.

It would have been fun.
comment 4
GGrass date : 05/06/2008 time : 10.06
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Felix: Ok... Knowing that you were wearing 'blogger hat' while typing this gives much better understanding.
comment 3
FelixQui date : 05/06/2008 time : 09.57
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I was writing as a Nation blogger, in response to some recent comments in the Nation and here.

I also thought there was some repitition. The various points are all inter-related, both the causes and the effects, so I decided to leave the repetition that shows that, rather than tightening it all up - which also takes a lot more time (I enjoy a spot of blogging, but I also have a job that takes time to do well).
comment 2
narcisuss date : 05/06/2008 time : 09.51
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I  come in peace :)

Bold piece.
This will be interesting.
It is especially discouraging to think about point 4 as I see its effects on a day to day basis in my own university.
comment 1
GGrass date : 05/06/2008 time : 09.41
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Felix: All you wrote is reasonable. Except you repeated some points.

But let me ask you, when you were writing this piece, WHAT, or WHO WERE YOU WRITING AS?
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